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Abi Gezunt's avatar

This is not ONLY a problem for Christianity (in its many variations) or Islam or... It is simply another hatred, prejudice that can shift its shape to attack anyone with a difference. Colour? Gender? Left-handed? History & every religion have words reminding us to care for the stranger, the different.

Sadly, human nature also seems to drive us to become members of social groups, adds in competition between the groups, and each group then attemps to be the dominant group. Jews didn't ask to be a common denominator of hatred, nor do we see ourselves as dominant. We do not impose our ideas on others. We simply stick to what our morality teaches us. For that, we are punished.

But if it was not us, some other group would be punished. Just ask the Africans enslaved and shipped to America starting in 1619. We do not need Christianity or Christians (fill in the blank) to be better. We need to find the psychological, sociological conditions necessary to improve human nature. That could take another millenia or two.

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Harley "Griff" Lofton's avatar

We really need to rethink our use of terms like Anti-Semitism which has become almost indecipherable as has racism.

The word "anti-Semitism" was coined in 1879 by German journalist Wilhelm Marr to provide a "scientific-sounding" term for anti-Jewish sentiment, replacing the older term Judenhass ("Jew-hatred"). Marr used it to lend a pseudo-scientific, racial basis to his anti-Jewish ideology.

For European Jew-haters Jews were a problem to be "solved" and in order to get Jews out of Europe they were early proponents of what would evolve into Zionism.

Although religious Jewry was an easy target for Jew haters the real animosity toward Jews was deeper than religion. It was seen as a blood (genetic) disorder infiltrating and poisoning the world. At first to be contained in walled off ghettoes, then removed from Christian Europe and then finally eliminated altogether.

Imperial Christianity laid the initial groundwork of organized Jew-hatred and centered on religion. In the 16th and 17th centuries cultural ambivalence made Jew-hatred variable between tolerance and suspicious coexistence. By the 18th and 19th centuries many Jews were beginning to assimilate casting aside their Jewish identity and yet their Jewishness could still be used against them (othering) when society decided. The Jew-hatred was more genteel but just as deep.

I really think we need to call things what they are and stop with euphemisms like anti-Semitism and call it what it is Jew-hatred.

Fuentes is a Jew-hater and Carlson may be a Jew-hater but it has nothing really to do with religion or Christianity. Americans in the 1920s were no more or less Jew-haters than they were in Germany, or Poland, or Russia, or England. Residual Jew-hatred sloshes around American culture as part of our national patrimony most of the time it goes unexpressed but these days permission has been granted to say out loud what people only thought.

Globalism (what we used to call cosmopolitanism) is the great Jew-hating rally cry of today as evidenced by the preoccupation of saving Western (white male) civilization and Christian Europe. The irony of American Christians actually believing there is a Christian Europe to save is lost on them.

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R Hodsdon's avatar

HGL -

I am puzzled by your final paragraph, where you state that, "Globalism (what we used to call cosmopolitanism) is the great Jew-hating rally cry of today." I do not question the assertion's validity as regards "cosmopolitanism" in early 20th century usage, but today the term "globalist" is applied to free-trade advocates, multinational businesses and NGOs, and even Pope Francis. Link: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pope-francis-was-a-globalist-in-an-age-of-nationalists/ar-AA1DlJ0D

Today's so-called "conservative" MAGA-folk despise Globalists as "woke" and/or anti-American, and assert that "woke liberals" are anti-Semitic 'because they support Hamas' (by which it seems they mean anything from decrying Israel's war in Gaza to supporting Palestinian statehood).

I consider my outlook to be "globalist", but I am not a Jew-hater, and object to hearing anyone suggesting that I and others like me are.

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Harley "Griff" Lofton's avatar

Perhaps my writing was unclear for which I apologize. I never suggested that "Globalists" were Jew-Haters. Exactly the opposite.

Jew-haters are rallying around the hating of globalists.

Globalists are NOT doing the Jew-hating.

When Jew-haters invoke "Globalism" they are trying to reawaken the old international conspiracy of Jewish world domination.

MAGAs interest in "anti-Semitism" is cynical and being used to make a wedge between what was once a fairly solid part of the Democratic coalition. Unfortunately Democrats are helping them to achieve that goal.

At this point in its evolution MAGA has many competing and conflicting threads held together by two things: Faith in Donald J Trump and "Owing the Libs." As such the MAGA movement currently has both Jews and Jew-haters, blacks and white supremacists, LGBTQ members and Gay-haters, Christian Nationalists and non-Christians. When Trump is gone these conflicting threads will unravel.

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R Hodsdon's avatar

Thank you for the clarification. That's the direction I thought you were headed , which explains why I was puzzled.

Btw, I appreciate your explanation of the origin of the term, "anti-Semitic" as a replacement for the cruder "Judenhass". Didn't know that before you told us.

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E. W. Zepp's avatar

For anyone who still need convincing that politics is not linear, its a horseshoe.

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Michael's avatar

I generally agree with what you wrote, Mark. Carlson has always been a whore for ratings and not-so-secretly antisemtic. More and more the quite parts are being said out loud by bigots and haters of all types. I will take issue with one minor point: You described Catholic integralism as if it is something more than a few dreamers and commentators online. I am Catholic and know many other Catholics, none of whom believe that the state should be subordinate to the church.

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