People seem way too worried about Facebook and not worried enough about fox news.
On the other hand, mass shooting events while interesting/tragic/headline dominating are very rare. I would expect the death caused by empowering any part of the American government to police speech to be much higher than the extra mass shootings that come from tucker.
Indeed, the NZ mass shooter was not inspired by Tucker, as far as I know, since he was in the NZ media space.
The obvious problem with this is that the people in the Buffalo grocery store weren't immigrants. It could be that, even if the shooter was influenced by ambient anti-immigrant beliefs, he chose his target because he is mentally ill.
Here is what his manifesto said about black people: "We must crush immigration and deport those invaders already living on our soil.” “It would have eased me if I knew all the blacks I would be killing were criminals or future criminals, but then I realized all black people are replacers just by existing in White countries.” “There is no non-white living on White lands that is innocent.”
As the editor notes, I'm not linking to the manifesto. But I am in possession of it and have read it. It is clear that Gendron views Black Americans as equivalent to immigrants in his frame of Great Replacement Theory. It just so happened that the closest target set to him was a Black community.
As my post makes clear, the question isn’t whether people on the left commit violent acts in the name of their politics. They do (but nowhere near the degree that the right does). The question is whether the left engages in the kind of public discourse that leads to stochastic terrorism.
Randy: Your way of viewing the world is fundamentally different from mine (I simply don't ascribe much importance to racial identities which have changed over time and will continue to do so in the future. Hence I don't find the demographic replacement or displacement of any group at all alarming or threatening). However, so long as you keep expressing yourself the way you have -- respectfully without resorting to vitriol or profanity -- you can speak your mind on this forum.
No. The word “replace” connotes intentionality and purpose. The white population is declining both absolutely (for the first time ever in the 2020 census) and relatively. Birth rates and immigration, of course, are factors. But that has been true since the Founding (the relative decline, at least). But that doesn’t mean that whites are being “replaced.” It’s not a semantic difference.
Nice straw man there. It is possible to have a discussion over immigration policy or white demographic change without engaging in the kind of behaviors that I identify in the post. The problem isn’t that Tucker Carlson talks about immigration or the demographic change occurring. It’s the way he does it.
Tucker Carlsson, a right-wing collectivist with dangerous minds
Diversity is not opposite to unity. Diversity is opposite to uniformity. It is like in Star Wars with Republic vs the Empire
People seem way too worried about Facebook and not worried enough about fox news.
On the other hand, mass shooting events while interesting/tragic/headline dominating are very rare. I would expect the death caused by empowering any part of the American government to police speech to be much higher than the extra mass shootings that come from tucker.
Indeed, the NZ mass shooter was not inspired by Tucker, as far as I know, since he was in the NZ media space.
Love all the troll comments from right wingers who obviously haven't read any of the essays.
The obvious problem with this is that the people in the Buffalo grocery store weren't immigrants. It could be that, even if the shooter was influenced by ambient anti-immigrant beliefs, he chose his target because he is mentally ill.
And in a certain way all mass killers are mentally ill. But that does not mean they are not influenced by ideas that they hear around them.
Here is what his manifesto said about black people: "We must crush immigration and deport those invaders already living on our soil.” “It would have eased me if I knew all the blacks I would be killing were criminals or future criminals, but then I realized all black people are replacers just by existing in White countries.” “There is no non-white living on White lands that is innocent.”
Thank you for the additional information. I haven't read the shooter's manifesto yet and I'm only cursorily familiar with the Replacement Theory.
As the editor notes, I'm not linking to the manifesto. But I am in possession of it and have read it. It is clear that Gendron views Black Americans as equivalent to immigrants in his frame of Great Replacement Theory. It just so happened that the closest target set to him was a Black community.
Buffalo shooter repeated right wing Trump and Tucker lines verbatim.
As my post makes clear, the question isn’t whether people on the left commit violent acts in the name of their politics. They do (but nowhere near the degree that the right does). The question is whether the left engages in the kind of public discourse that leads to stochastic terrorism.
Randy: Your way of viewing the world is fundamentally different from mine (I simply don't ascribe much importance to racial identities which have changed over time and will continue to do so in the future. Hence I don't find the demographic replacement or displacement of any group at all alarming or threatening). However, so long as you keep expressing yourself the way you have -- respectfully without resorting to vitriol or profanity -- you can speak your mind on this forum.
“…No matter how many immigrants they bring into the country.” Thanks for dropping your veil.
No. The word “replace” connotes intentionality and purpose. The white population is declining both absolutely (for the first time ever in the 2020 census) and relatively. Birth rates and immigration, of course, are factors. But that has been true since the Founding (the relative decline, at least). But that doesn’t mean that whites are being “replaced.” It’s not a semantic difference.
Nice straw man there. It is possible to have a discussion over immigration policy or white demographic change without engaging in the kind of behaviors that I identify in the post. The problem isn’t that Tucker Carlson talks about immigration or the demographic change occurring. It’s the way he does it.
Actually, Ramesh Ponnuru, a National Review writer who is no friend of immigration or the left, responded to the caricature that Ann presents of the Democratic position even before she wrote it: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-05-18/buffalo-massacre-great-replacement-theory-is-a-grand-delusion?sref=XcONO5zf
See my other response to this question.