What comes next is precisely the question. This week's lower court decisions have given us hope, but we know that the radical right-wing crazies who hate democracy and our country (to use DJT's own over the top rhetoric) could undue all of that. Call or write your senators and congresspeople now.
Maybe nobody is paying attention but we're already ensconced in fascism; already in a Constitutional crisis. Troops in Chicago is simply the next step in the takeover. I appreciate Pritzker and Chicago's leadership, but the Courts can make all the noise they want; Trump is not paying attention.
As a mere citizen and not a lawyer, I'm getting very confused about what would happen should the guard be deployed around election day.
This morning, over at Harry Litman's substack, Talking Feds, he posted a guest essay by Rich Bernstein discussing how the Trump administration's arguments in the case recently decided by Judge Charles Breyer were attempting to lay the groundwork for election interference. (https://harrylitman.substack.com/p/rich-bernstein-administrations-arguments)
Yesterday, Joyce Vance on her substack, Civil Discourse, seemed very confident that any such attempt would be rebuffed by the courts. I can't say I was tremendously reassured given the track record of the Supreme Court Six. (https://joycevance.substack.com/p/can-federal-troops-be-stationed-at)
I not asking for your response to those opinions, but it would be really interesting if you, Harry/Rich, Joyce, Steve and maybe others were to have an on-line discussion of the issue of election interference by the guard and the likelihood that it can be successfully opposed.
He *has* to generate chaos to distract from Epstein.
I think ideally we would offer him some sort of plea deal where he steps down and agrees to avoid further runs for office, and otherwise pretend his name didn't appear in the files. Would it be possible to campaign for Pam Bondi to do this?
Chicago resident here. I live in downtown Chicago where city residents are bracing for a siege by the trump regime. Fencing has been installed around the federal building and civic organizations are preparing to protest. “Hands off Chicago” is our protest cry. Chicago has a long history of non violent protest (Vietnam protests turned violent only after police provocation). We know the federal agencies and troops will try and provoke a physical confrontation so the Governor, Mayor and the Police Superintendent are urging everyone to stay calm while protesting.
Trump has already won since multiple Mexican American organizations have canceled their Mexican Independence Day celebrations for fear of ICE using them as a means of mass incarceration.
Many will resist it, but if this happens, it is time to start arresting people and responding to force with force as needed. Immunity extends only to legitimate government activity, and Texas has no legitimate activity to carry out in Illinois (anticipating, that is, the state use described). They can raise any affirmative defense they want at trial.
What comes next is precisely the question. This week's lower court decisions have given us hope, but we know that the radical right-wing crazies who hate democracy and our country (to use DJT's own over the top rhetoric) could undue all of that. Call or write your senators and congresspeople now.
Treason is the levying of war against another state. This steps over that line.
Maybe nobody is paying attention but we're already ensconced in fascism; already in a Constitutional crisis. Troops in Chicago is simply the next step in the takeover. I appreciate Pritzker and Chicago's leadership, but the Courts can make all the noise they want; Trump is not paying attention.
As a mere citizen and not a lawyer, I'm getting very confused about what would happen should the guard be deployed around election day.
This morning, over at Harry Litman's substack, Talking Feds, he posted a guest essay by Rich Bernstein discussing how the Trump administration's arguments in the case recently decided by Judge Charles Breyer were attempting to lay the groundwork for election interference. (https://harrylitman.substack.com/p/rich-bernstein-administrations-arguments)
Yesterday, Joyce Vance on her substack, Civil Discourse, seemed very confident that any such attempt would be rebuffed by the courts. I can't say I was tremendously reassured given the track record of the Supreme Court Six. (https://joycevance.substack.com/p/can-federal-troops-be-stationed-at)
Steve Vladeck on his substack, One First, has also weighed in on these questions. (https://www.stevevladeck.com/p/176-illinois-v-texas and https://www.stevevladeck.com/p/bonus-176-law-lawlessness-and-doomerism)
I not asking for your response to those opinions, but it would be really interesting if you, Harry/Rich, Joyce, Steve and maybe others were to have an on-line discussion of the issue of election interference by the guard and the likelihood that it can be successfully opposed.
Very good suggestion!
I think maybe Trump feels like a cornered animal due to the Epstein thing
https://xcancel.com/TheJusticeDept/status/1963635111112446449#m
He *has* to generate chaos to distract from Epstein.
I think ideally we would offer him some sort of plea deal where he steps down and agrees to avoid further runs for office, and otherwise pretend his name didn't appear in the files. Would it be possible to campaign for Pam Bondi to do this?
Not a snowball's chance in hell Bondi would cooperate with what you describe, although it's a very good idea.
Chicago resident here. I live in downtown Chicago where city residents are bracing for a siege by the trump regime. Fencing has been installed around the federal building and civic organizations are preparing to protest. “Hands off Chicago” is our protest cry. Chicago has a long history of non violent protest (Vietnam protests turned violent only after police provocation). We know the federal agencies and troops will try and provoke a physical confrontation so the Governor, Mayor and the Police Superintendent are urging everyone to stay calm while protesting.
Trump has already won since multiple Mexican American organizations have canceled their Mexican Independence Day celebrations for fear of ICE using them as a means of mass incarceration.
How sad is this. Perhaps non-Mexicans should celebrate the holiday by proxy?
Many will resist it, but if this happens, it is time to start arresting people and responding to force with force as needed. Immunity extends only to legitimate government activity, and Texas has no legitimate activity to carry out in Illinois (anticipating, that is, the state use described). They can raise any affirmative defense they want at trial.