What a shockingly embarrassing episode. The thing that amazes me is that these people are doing exactly what they claim (sometimes correctly) their opponents do. If you asked Vance if he knows that there was never a "hands up -don't shoot" moment in the Michael Brown incident, or whether or not Jacob Blake had a knife, they would know the answer and slam "leftists" for spreading the fake version.
But here we are, talking about how the cat-eating may not be literally true but poetically true 🙄 embarrassing.
Ya. Trump says stupid things. Shocker!! Yet the regime media has hammered away at the issue relentlessly for two weeks - once again turning a nothing burger into an existential crisis. The Dems can always count on their foot soldiers in the regime media to stoke anger and polarization.
I think you're misreading Rufo. Rufo was claiming the whole "Haitians are eating cats and dogs" story was bogus and threw down $5k to prove it. The only "evidence" that surfaced was the video from Dayton.
"Nowhere on the planet is it acceptable for another culture to create a majority population by replacing the native population. " This is also laughable because this was precisely what Zionism intended to do and did.
This is a second comment. I don't quite understand why people who obviously do not have the same general perspective/orientation as "The Unpopulist" spend so much time trashing the contributors who write here. Not just disparaging comments but LENGTHY comments! Who exactly are they really addressing? Why? Normal people don't track down neo-Nazi substacks just to call the authors delusional pieces of filth. Is it a compulsion that they just can't resist? Most of these border on trolling because they are generally not offering any new insight into the conversation just the same old trite invectives and ad hominem screeds.
“It's a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma…”
For whatever reason, our content attracts lots of haters into our comment sections. We absolutely welcome criticism, but it can't help but be frustrating when it's of the bad-faith variety.
Thanks Cathy for the article. Although I was familiar with most of what you presented there were new details and you provide a great time line.
My "like" button doesn't work when I am working on my PC (and I hate trying to write on my phone) and you are on fire in the comments! So I "like" all of your comments!
My chief complaint about all of this is that so much of this is heat is being generated on the antisocial media platforms. Imagine a world where the citizens of Springfield were left alone to work through their own "problems" without the incendiary comments from a Russian Bot Farm, amplified by a hundred influencers and disseminated endlessly in evolving variations by thousands of trolls across the internet universe.
Even if there are real problems why does the opinion of thousands of people who never even knew Springfield existed until Donald Trump blurted it out in the debate matter? Do the Klansmen strolling around armed through the streets of Springfield not have jobs and families to attend to? Why do influencers find it important to take a selfie in front of a Haitian grocery store with a sneering and snarky comment? Not only is the antisocial media addictive--- it is literally a viral disease.
My hometown in South Central Nebraska was founded as a stop on the railroad in 1882 probably by a 100 men living in tents. By 1885 there were well over 3,000 men, women and children. Huge swaths of them were immigrants from Sweden and Germany most barely able to speak English. There were stresses on housing and on what there were of public services. But the market supplies what is demanded in time. The population remained stable at around 3000 until After WWII and the baby boom. The population swelled adding about 1000 per decade until reaching almost 6000 where it has remained. There was a housing shortage but the GI Bill brought a housing boom. There weren't enough seats in the two elementary schools (K-6) and 2 more were added in one year. The grade school I went to was dedicated on the day I was born in 1953. A new Senior High School (10-12) had to be built and the old high school used just for a junior high school (7-9). The downtown business district was booming, manufacturing plants came to town, hospitals expanded and new churches built.
My point is that the citizens of the community came together to problem solve. They did not turn on each other trying to play victims or blaming others for the problems. The only media we had was 3 regional TV stations, 1 radio station, 1 daily newspaper, and two statewide newspapers, and the gossip mill. (Our version of social media.) They had more important news to report locally and around the world and did not need/want to trade in gossip.
Any legitimate media reportage from journalists and editors and publishers that is entirely based on what is happening in the antisocial media is being lazy or failing at their actual jobs.
No doubt there's a great deal of rot on the Republican side of the ledger. But at least they're not guilty of castrating and sterilizing autistic and dysphoric children, of turning them into sexless eunuchs.
Though that is somewhat incongruous since they were the ones pushing conversion therapy. Which is basically what "gender affirming surgery" often boils down into -- "Don't want a gay son? Convince/trick him into cutting his nuts off and becoming a transwoman."
A classic case of strange bedfellows since that is the standard operating procedure of Iran's Ayatollahs. When they're not throwing gays off roof tops or hanging them.
Hard not to get the impression that transgenderism -- particularly with Democrats putting transwomen (AKA male transvestites or sexless eunuchs) into women's toilets, change rooms and sports -- is, or should be, the fatal flaw in the whole Democrat party and in much if not all of the so-called Left. Just the tip of a very large iceberg that may well if not should send both to Davey Jones' Locker.
No problemo -- we're all entitled to our opinions 😉🙂. But not our own facts -- as Daniel Moynihan once emphasized.
And while you've made a solid case that many on the Republican side are "barking mad" -- being charitable -- that is just part of a rather questionable argument as to why people shouldn't vote for Trump.
But I don't think you, and too many others, quite realize that "muh pets" is only part of a much more substantive bill of particulars against the Democrats that still makes this election into a toss-up, into anybody's game.
In particular, a rather large contingent of women -- the "real" kind, not the "Rachel" Levine kind buried like ticks in the White House and Department of Education -- are rather seriously bent out of shape, with good reason, at the depredations of that tribe, aided and abetted by Democrats.
For example, you might consider Kara Dansky's, "The Reckoning: How the Democrats and the Left Betrayed Women and Girls":
And the upshot there, a well- argued and justified one, is that, as the Helens put it, transgenderism is "a civilization threatening/ending movement". Kinda think that "muh pets" pales into insignificance in the face of that rather brute fact.
Seems you need to get more "in touch with your 'feminine side' ..." 😉🙂 At least with the issues on that side of the ledger that contribute to that toss-up.
You enticed a bunch of cheap labor to come over from Haiti. These people bring with them tens of thousands of dollars in Ed’s and Meds subsidies paid for by the federal and state government (if you’ve got a low wage job, you are subsidized by the government). That, not their pathetic “labor”, is what the locality really wants.
If I was running the local k-12 schools I would love to get another $15k+ tax infusion for each immigrant kid paid for by tax dollars from someplace else. If I was the person paying those tax dollars I would not be so excited. And if my kid was attending schools flooded with Haitians and I had no personal financial stake in it I’d be pissed.
It’s no surprise that a lot of the local politicians that support this stuff also get rich off it. It’s just another by the head welfare scam paid for by the rest of us.
You obviously didn't read this article or any of the others I cited. But then, bigoted scumbags generally aren't very big on reading (other than that incredibly shoddy report you linked).
The thing that really bugs me about the redirect from cats to wild ducks and geese is: What exactly is the crime here? Hunting out of season and without a license?
I've seen conservatives mock the concept of a hunting license by referring to it as "a license to feed my family." Shouldn't they celebrate someone who is hunting without a license?
"While these claims have been thoroughly debunked, the story refuses to go away—largely because Trump supporters keep trying to spin the fiasco in his favor."
Actually, YOU are the one that keeps bringing it up.
And, yes, Springfield is suffering under the weight of 20,000 illegal immigrants that it is expected to house and feed. That is one third of its population added inside of three years. THAT is the issue. Small wonder you want to try to keep people distracted with dogs.
Consider how insane your ideological commitments have made you: Instead of pointing the blame at Trump and Vance for repeatedly banging on about Haitians eating pets, your beef is with commentators who cover it and criticize them over it.
Vivek Ramaswamy just went to Springfield for a town hall, and I'm the one that keeps bringing it up? Okay then.
Also, as Nianbo said: do read the article! And: "to house and feed"? You guys really need to pick one narrative. Are they stealing jobs from the locals or are they being housed and fed?
(Incidentally, there had been plenty of abandoned housing in Springfield because the town was in decline; its population had dropped by about 20K since the late 1960s. Some of that housing was rehabilitated to rent to the migrants. Capitalism!)
You might want to listen to this. I invested a half hour of life into listening to this. You can to. Or you can just go around being smug and uninformed.
Actually, many of us are tired of Canada sending us their geese. Not the good ones who just migrate through but the ones that stick around because they have found easy living here in the US of A. They are a nuisance species here and we should be paying Haitians to eat them!
I mean this with no irony: thank you for your thoughtful commentaries on so many issues, cultural and political. When I see your byline, I know I'm going to be smarter soon. Thanks!
What a shockingly embarrassing episode. The thing that amazes me is that these people are doing exactly what they claim (sometimes correctly) their opponents do. If you asked Vance if he knows that there was never a "hands up -don't shoot" moment in the Michael Brown incident, or whether or not Jacob Blake had a knife, they would know the answer and slam "leftists" for spreading the fake version.
But here we are, talking about how the cat-eating may not be literally true but poetically true 🙄 embarrassing.
Ya. Trump says stupid things. Shocker!! Yet the regime media has hammered away at the issue relentlessly for two weeks - once again turning a nothing burger into an existential crisis. The Dems can always count on their foot soldiers in the regime media to stoke anger and polarization.
I think you're misreading Rufo. Rufo was claiming the whole "Haitians are eating cats and dogs" story was bogus and threw down $5k to prove it. The only "evidence" that surfaced was the video from Dayton.
"Nowhere on the planet is it acceptable for another culture to create a majority population by replacing the native population. " This is also laughable because this was precisely what Zionism intended to do and did.
When folks engage in name-calling and other forms of attacks on commenters' character, they undercut arguments that they make.
I stopped reading this essay when Young denigrated Dr Wolf instead of her comments.
Yes and it exposes the lefts hatred and bigotry toward working class whites. There is plenty of hate to go around.
This is a second comment. I don't quite understand why people who obviously do not have the same general perspective/orientation as "The Unpopulist" spend so much time trashing the contributors who write here. Not just disparaging comments but LENGTHY comments! Who exactly are they really addressing? Why? Normal people don't track down neo-Nazi substacks just to call the authors delusional pieces of filth. Is it a compulsion that they just can't resist? Most of these border on trolling because they are generally not offering any new insight into the conversation just the same old trite invectives and ad hominem screeds.
“It's a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma…”
Yes, the comments on their posts is always astonishing to me. They have dedicated following off completely delusional haters
For whatever reason, our content attracts lots of haters into our comment sections. We absolutely welcome criticism, but it can't help but be frustrating when it's of the bad-faith variety.
Bless your heart for responding to people who argue in bad faith.
Thanks Cathy for the article. Although I was familiar with most of what you presented there were new details and you provide a great time line.
My "like" button doesn't work when I am working on my PC (and I hate trying to write on my phone) and you are on fire in the comments! So I "like" all of your comments!
My chief complaint about all of this is that so much of this is heat is being generated on the antisocial media platforms. Imagine a world where the citizens of Springfield were left alone to work through their own "problems" without the incendiary comments from a Russian Bot Farm, amplified by a hundred influencers and disseminated endlessly in evolving variations by thousands of trolls across the internet universe.
Even if there are real problems why does the opinion of thousands of people who never even knew Springfield existed until Donald Trump blurted it out in the debate matter? Do the Klansmen strolling around armed through the streets of Springfield not have jobs and families to attend to? Why do influencers find it important to take a selfie in front of a Haitian grocery store with a sneering and snarky comment? Not only is the antisocial media addictive--- it is literally a viral disease.
My hometown in South Central Nebraska was founded as a stop on the railroad in 1882 probably by a 100 men living in tents. By 1885 there were well over 3,000 men, women and children. Huge swaths of them were immigrants from Sweden and Germany most barely able to speak English. There were stresses on housing and on what there were of public services. But the market supplies what is demanded in time. The population remained stable at around 3000 until After WWII and the baby boom. The population swelled adding about 1000 per decade until reaching almost 6000 where it has remained. There was a housing shortage but the GI Bill brought a housing boom. There weren't enough seats in the two elementary schools (K-6) and 2 more were added in one year. The grade school I went to was dedicated on the day I was born in 1953. A new Senior High School (10-12) had to be built and the old high school used just for a junior high school (7-9). The downtown business district was booming, manufacturing plants came to town, hospitals expanded and new churches built.
My point is that the citizens of the community came together to problem solve. They did not turn on each other trying to play victims or blaming others for the problems. The only media we had was 3 regional TV stations, 1 radio station, 1 daily newspaper, and two statewide newspapers, and the gossip mill. (Our version of social media.) They had more important news to report locally and around the world and did not need/want to trade in gossip.
Any legitimate media reportage from journalists and editors and publishers that is entirely based on what is happening in the antisocial media is being lazy or failing at their actual jobs.
No doubt there's a great deal of rot on the Republican side of the ledger. But at least they're not guilty of castrating and sterilizing autistic and dysphoric children, of turning them into sexless eunuchs.
Though that is somewhat incongruous since they were the ones pushing conversion therapy. Which is basically what "gender affirming surgery" often boils down into -- "Don't want a gay son? Convince/trick him into cutting his nuts off and becoming a transwoman."
A classic case of strange bedfellows since that is the standard operating procedure of Iran's Ayatollahs. When they're not throwing gays off roof tops or hanging them.
Hard not to get the impression that transgenderism -- particularly with Democrats putting transwomen (AKA male transvestites or sexless eunuchs) into women's toilets, change rooms and sports -- is, or should be, the fatal flaw in the whole Democrat party and in much if not all of the so-called Left. Just the tip of a very large iceberg that may well if not should send both to Davey Jones' Locker.
Sorry, not a fan of dragging an entirely unrelated issue into a discussion.
No problemo -- we're all entitled to our opinions 😉🙂. But not our own facts -- as Daniel Moynihan once emphasized.
And while you've made a solid case that many on the Republican side are "barking mad" -- being charitable -- that is just part of a rather questionable argument as to why people shouldn't vote for Trump.
But I don't think you, and too many others, quite realize that "muh pets" is only part of a much more substantive bill of particulars against the Democrats that still makes this election into a toss-up, into anybody's game.
In particular, a rather large contingent of women -- the "real" kind, not the "Rachel" Levine kind buried like ticks in the White House and Department of Education -- are rather seriously bent out of shape, with good reason, at the depredations of that tribe, aided and abetted by Democrats.
For example, you might consider Kara Dansky's, "The Reckoning: How the Democrats and the Left Betrayed Women and Girls":
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0CN32BXC2/ref=cbw_us_ca_dp_narx_gl_book
And Aussie/UK lawyer & author Helen Dale's interview with Economist author Helen Joyce and with lawyer Maya Forstater:
"When Does Sex Matter?"
https://lawliberty.org/podcast/when-does-sex-matter/
And the upshot there, a well- argued and justified one, is that, as the Helens put it, transgenderism is "a civilization threatening/ending movement". Kinda think that "muh pets" pales into insignificance in the face of that rather brute fact.
Seems you need to get more "in touch with your 'feminine side' ..." 😉🙂 At least with the issues on that side of the ledger that contribute to that toss-up.
https://open.substack.com/pub/neociceroniantimes/p/driving-out-the-moneychangers-again?r=z2vbm&utm_medium=ios
Linking to more debunked bullshit from a religious authoritarian. Figures.
Great piece but Wesley Yang was never a serious journalist, he’s always been what he is
TPS shouldn’t exist.
You enticed a bunch of cheap labor to come over from Haiti. These people bring with them tens of thousands of dollars in Ed’s and Meds subsidies paid for by the federal and state government (if you’ve got a low wage job, you are subsidized by the government). That, not their pathetic “labor”, is what the locality really wants.
If I was running the local k-12 schools I would love to get another $15k+ tax infusion for each immigrant kid paid for by tax dollars from someplace else. If I was the person paying those tax dollars I would not be so excited. And if my kid was attending schools flooded with Haitians and I had no personal financial stake in it I’d be pissed.
https://buckeyereporter.com/stories/664310242-special-report-renting-apartments-to-haitians-is-big-business-for-springfield-mayor-rob-rue-others
It’s no surprise that a lot of the local politicians that support this stuff also get rich off it. It’s just another by the head welfare scam paid for by the rest of us.
You obviously didn't read this article or any of the others I cited. But then, bigoted scumbags generally aren't very big on reading (other than that incredibly shoddy report you linked).
The thing that really bugs me about the redirect from cats to wild ducks and geese is: What exactly is the crime here? Hunting out of season and without a license?
I've seen conservatives mock the concept of a hunting license by referring to it as "a license to feed my family." Shouldn't they celebrate someone who is hunting without a license?
"While these claims have been thoroughly debunked, the story refuses to go away—largely because Trump supporters keep trying to spin the fiasco in his favor."
Actually, YOU are the one that keeps bringing it up.
And, yes, Springfield is suffering under the weight of 20,000 illegal immigrants that it is expected to house and feed. That is one third of its population added inside of three years. THAT is the issue. Small wonder you want to try to keep people distracted with dogs.
Consider how insane your ideological commitments have made you: Instead of pointing the blame at Trump and Vance for repeatedly banging on about Haitians eating pets, your beef is with commentators who cover it and criticize them over it.
Vivek Ramaswamy just went to Springfield for a town hall, and I'm the one that keeps bringing it up? Okay then.
Also, as Nianbo said: do read the article! And: "to house and feed"? You guys really need to pick one narrative. Are they stealing jobs from the locals or are they being housed and fed?
(Incidentally, there had been plenty of abandoned housing in Springfield because the town was in decline; its population had dropped by about 20K since the late 1960s. Some of that housing was rehabilitated to rent to the migrants. Capitalism!)
You might want to listen to this. I invested a half hour of life into listening to this. You can to. Or you can just go around being smug and uninformed.
https://989theanswer.com/podcast/episode/11955/twr-09-12-segs-1-2-3-kyle-koehler-springfields-cla
Did he bring up dogs? Or did he bring up the strain that a 30% population increase is putting on the people of Springfield?
(How much of that housing was rehabilitated, and who paid for it. Socialism!)
The dogs? You mean the made up bullshit that ya refuse to let die.
Awwww… didn’t read the ducking article did ya?
If ya did, then you’d know that the 20k figure is bullshit. Try harder than debunked garbage.
Here's my source, what's yours?
https://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news/thousands-of-haitian-immigrants-now-in-springfield-5-takeaways-from-our-reporting/QQFDZR6JAVCBNC6TGZGAEKE2JU/
And hey hey hey dumbarse, check this out:
https://springfieldohio.gov/immigration-faqs/
Once again, did you even read the fucking article?
If you did, then you’d find me source.
Done with ya.
When do we get closure on the former goose?
Have you considered a follow up headcount of Canadian geese landing on Trump golf courses that never take off again ?
As a Canadian, I'm going demand an accounting for every last one of our Canadian geese! (hic ... 😉🙂)
Actually, many of us are tired of Canada sending us their geese. Not the good ones who just migrate through but the ones that stick around because they have found easy living here in the US of A. They are a nuisance species here and we should be paying Haitians to eat them!
I mean this with no irony: thank you for your thoughtful commentaries on so many issues, cultural and political. When I see your byline, I know I'm going to be smarter soon. Thanks!
Thanks so much!