“Anti-Semitism means spreading enmity towards the Jews. When the accursed tsarist monarchy was living its last days it tried to incite ignorant workers and peasants against the Jews. The tsarist police, in alliance with the landowners and the capitalists, organised pogroms against the Jews. The landowners and capitalists tried to divert the hatred of the workers and peasants who were tortured by want against the Jews. In other countries, too, we often see the capitalists fomenting hatred against the Jews in order to blind the workers, to divert their attention from the real enemy of the working people, capital. Hatred towards the Jews persists only in those countries where slavery to the landowners and capitalists has created abysmal ignorance among the workers and peasants. Only the most ignorant and downtrodden people can believe the lies and slander that are spread about the Jews. This is a survival of ancient feudal times, when the priests burned heretics at the stake, when the peasants lived in slavery, and when the people were crushed and inarticulate. This ancient, feudal ignorance is passing away; the eyes of the people are being opened.
It is not the Jews who are the enemies of the working people. The enemies of the workers are the capitalists of all countries. Among the Jews there are working people, and they form the majority. They are our brothers, who, like us, are oppressed by capital; they are our comrades in the struggle for socialism. Among the Jews there are kulaks, exploiters and capitalists, just as there are among the Russians, and among people of all nations. The capitalists strive to sow and foment hatred between workers of different faiths, different nations and different races. Those who do not work are kept in power by the power and strength of capital. Rich Jews, like rich Russians, and the rich in all countries, are in alliance to oppress, crush, rob and disunite the workers.
Shame on accursed tsarism which tortured and persecuted the Jews. Shame on those who foment hatred towards the Jews, who foment hatred towards other nations.
Long live the fraternal trust and fighting alliance of the workers of all nations in the struggle to overthrow capital.”
Notice how the one being attacked by the anti-semites is AOC, arguably the most left person in the federal government.
There are purportedly leftist antisemites online and in some edgelord campus communities, but I find they pretty much uniformly reserve all of their anger for Democrats and are thoroughly silent about Trump's committing the full force of the US military to Netanyahu's goals.
There's a huge difference between the left and right here. On the left, you have a few loud but ultimately powerless people getting into antisemitism, and it's not even clear when they're actual leftists or neo Nazis cosplaying. Meanwhile on the right, you have the leader of the government hanging out with Nick Fuentes and Kanye West, you have Elon Musk and his coalition of right wing billionaires buying Twitter and welcoming back open neo Nazis with totenkopfs and swastikas in the profiles, hardly attempting to disguise his own antisemitism.
That's the real reason people like me get sick of hearing about this. It's like if we're actually going to have concentration camps in this country, it's not the left that's going to be the ones building them. It's the people who are doing the trial version with immigrant detention camps right now.
Laughably and dangerously incorrect. Without Trump, religious Christians, and Republicans-the Deadly Jew/Israel Hating Democrats would have us in camps already
I mean Democrats have run the government several times and that hasn't happened. FDR was president when the camps were liberated and he's still seen as the historical hero of the party and the most leftist president in history. Meanwhile Republicans have adopted the mantra of his antisemitic opponents who wanted to let Hitler do whatever he wants - "America First". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_First_Committee
You could call it a dog whistle, but humans should be able to hear it loud and clear by now.
Rather standard liberal pablum. The greater danger to the Jews has been building for 30 years. Only one party has passionately fostered and celebrated it. Only one party contains the most powerful and popular anti Jewish and anti Israel racists. Not one red trumpy hat among the violent hateful anti Jewish mobs celebrating Hamas or the intifada were there?
Lol who are you talking about? Mamdani? The mayor of the most Jewish city in America? Oh right, his wife liked a post that could be seen as controversial if you totally misrepresent the context. Checkmate libs!
The funny thing is I find myself making the opposite arguments with you as I do with the actual far left, defending Democrats from opposite sides. My replies are full of people talking about how Biden/Harris are too pro-Israel (https://substack.com/@bigredmeatstick/note/c-230847780?r=1mx3ns&utm_source=notes-share-action&utm_medium=web) . Also FYI most openly antisemitic people on the far right, who I also argue with, are also very pro-Trump. That's the difference: left antisemites hate Democrats, right antisemites love Republicans.
But hey, if you, far-right antisemites, and far-left antisemites can all join hands and together elect a racist pedophile rapist president, who says there's no hope humanity unite behind a common purpose?
Not a student of well established history are you. The modern unprecedented amount of holocaust level Jew hatred didn’t just start with the democrats Nazi embrace of Hamas and intifada, There is a long list going back decades that caused the unprecedented Jew and Israel hatred in modern America and again all of the most powerful popular and influential leaders were from the left from Farrakhan Sharpton Jackson Pressley Sarsour tlaib Omar Ellison the entire Bds movement Carter etc
Yeah I don't think I need to tell you about what happens when we go back decades with the right. Fine, I'm not going to convince you. Call us when your "allies" turn on you and throw you in the camps again, then you'll learn why your grandparents appreciated the side that fights for the powerless.
I generally agree with you, and totally reject the both-sidesing of this issue (let alone the blaming the left *more* than the right). That said, I think as we’re now seeing the horseshoeing of left-wing antisemitism (e.g. in the context of anti-imperialism / anti-Zionism) with right-wing antisemitism (e.g. Tucker Carlson), the danger is more than a few trivial edgelords. And there is often clear antisemitism at pro-Palestine events (e.g. the action in Queens) — not ambiguous “is it anti-zionism or antisemitism” stuff but clear hate speech. So I agree, the crisis on the left is nothing like the crisis on the right, but it does exist and it does betray our values and does empower those seeking to undermine us.
Thank you for this thoughtful piece. It needed to be said. I’m sick and tired of dumbfucks on the left who either can’t or won’t deal with this. That being said, the weaponisation of anti semitism in the cause of support for Israel’s inexcusable conduct also fills me with fury.
Progressives, now, have become critics of Israel, and some have exhibited antisemitism, because of Israel's persistence in fighting in Gaza after a devastating campaign in Gaza following the October 7th, 2023 Hamas surprise killing attack against southern Israel. Your comprehensive article fails to comment on the underlying moral and ethical principles upon which the Israelis base their continued fighting. The answer lies within the Hamas Charter of 1988 (which was not repudiated in its 2017 revision), in which Hamas advocated its intent to seek out and kill Jews. In addition, it's pertinent to understand the admonishment of Jews not to kill, except when attacked and facing death at the hands of others. In that instance, even when responding to such a threat, the Jews are obliged to provide their enemy an escape route. Finally, Israel has always left open the "escape route" of a Hamas surrender with an accompanying release of all hostages. It is noteworthy that Hamas' attack was against men, women, children, young and old included. Hamas was under no instructions to spare "innocent Jews". In the Torah, the Jews' response similarly did not distinguish between enemy persons on the basis of age, sex or any other criterion. So , it is on the basis of these facts that one can conclude that the conflict in Gaza might not end until there is a surrender of Hamas or Israel and all hostages are exchanged.
It would have been useful to provide these facts to enable one to understand how Israel could persist in their effort to find and kill Hamas members.
Considering the Left truly enjoys cozying up to Muslim and Islamic organizations and politics, which have ABSOLUTELY NO PLACE in Western society, is it any wonder that Jews are distressed by Antisemitism?
As someone who has studied Islam DECADES before it became politicized and weaponized, a more disturbing popular world religion does not exist.
The top 20 terrorist organizations recognized by the CIA and the top 20 terrorists recognized by the FBI are ALL ISLAMIC. Just a co-incidence, right? Maybe we need a study to prove whether they're all terrorists or not?
But let's keep banging the drum of suicidal empathy and "diversity is our strength" as all the while, diversity continues to fracture and weaken the West and it's alliances.
At this point the Left is utterly clueless to the damage they are wreaking on Western society. Is it any wonder that there are protests in every country of the world to stop it and their catastrophic Globalist agenda?
Just the fact that you would suggest “globalize the intifada” means “globalize the non-violent struggle for Palestinian liberation” in any possible case makes me extremely dismissive of much else that you have to say. No self-respecting Palestinian in Gaza or the West Bank (or London or New York) would EVER agree with your interpretation, except in English to gullible westerners.
Jews have successfully lived peacefully and prosperously in hundreds of societies across history. How did they do so? They followed that "anti-Semite," Jesus Christ's teaching, "love thy neighbor as they self." "Anti-Semitism" does not occur "for no reason."
The overwhelming problem for Jews today was and remains "Israel," which looks a lot like Nazi Germany in so many ways to Gentiles and many Jews alike.
Are you implying that because "Israel" has beautiful places and advanced urban areas it "can't be Nazi"? That's amusing, when you compare the color photography of the Third Reich's society. A "very orderly society," in both cases.
What a ridiculous comment. I’m implying nothing; I’m stating as a categorical fact that anyone who has ever been to Israel would realize that as a society it looks nothing like Nazi Germany. The only people who believe that are consumers of propaganda or people with an ideological axe to grind
Tell me, what DID the Third Reich "look like"? Do you think there was an Auschwitz on the corner of the intersection, and a Dachau on the other? No, it looked a lot like any other advanced society to the vast majority. Except for the militarism and ethnic supremacy underlying its "public policy."
The difference between Antizionism and antisemitism is mostly an academic one. Irl it’s a get-out-of-jail-free card for progressives who want to justify something anyone would plainly understand as antisemitic.
"They do not define it as requiring that Palestinian society be eradicated, hospitals in Gaza bombed, or settler thugs allowed to conduct pogroms in the West Bank. Of course, it is the official policy of the current Israeli government to do all of these. But to many American Jews that is the result of the Netanyahu regime, not “Zionism” itself."
The record shows that that has been the official policy of Zionism, even before the creation of Israel. American Jews are mostly responsible for the creation of Israel and supported its oppressive policies until recently. Unfair to the present generation, they are intimately identified with the development of genocidal Israel.
If you have nothing to say, use an insulting worn out cliche.
The help we need is from people like you, whose undying support for apartheid Israel has caused mass hatred of Jews and placed innocent Jews in jeopardy. Israel and its supporters are responsible for the genocide of the Palestinian people and attacks on the Jewish people.
Ah! The deadly refrain that the Jews are causing their own abuse and hatred!
It is like some elitist pre World War Two German Jews surprised as they are forced to join the death trains, shouting “We are we are the good ones! We hate Israel/thejews/bibi too!” Hyper partisan self righteous blindness. Your ahistorical, deliberate misuse of the horrifying words genocide and apartheid is abusive and demeans the actual unprecedented terror and horror and suffering horrors of the Jews
i don't need disparaging remarks from you, who uses the deaths of my close relatives who were killed in the camps of World War II, to play victim and lecture me. I did I not write that Jews were "causing their own abuse and hatred." I wrote that "Israel and its supporters are responsible." We Jews had great lives in America until people like you came along.
That’s funny! “Came along” My family is one of the oldest American Jewish families and you obviously know nothing about how we were forced to survive and adapt here. Scratch an Israel/Bibi/IDF hater and you will find a Nazi or a blind, self-hating Kapo. We are in great danger and primarily from those who hate us the most-demonstrably from the Liberal/Left/Democrat/Progressive side. As my teen patients say: Own it, boomer
Good for yourancestors, what does it have to do with anything? All immigrants, including my parents, have to work hard to adapt everywhere, including the Mizrahim in Israel. Be glad you are Jewish and not Oriental, Black, Native American, Latino, Irish or Catholic, and that you belong to the best educated, healthiest, and wealthiest contingent in America. Keep up this diatribe and show others the ignorance and danger of Israel's supporters.
I appreciate what you have written and your attempt to define antisemitism and zionism or perhaps more accurately remind readers of earlier meanings. While I appreciate, however, I cannot entirely agree. You remark how statements regarding The Israeli Lobby rise to the level of conspiratorial antisemitism. I am reminded of John Mearsheimer and Steven M. Walts seminal "The Israeli Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy" published in 2007. In it, two of the most respected foreign policy and international relations experts of their generation methodically and precisely lay out in scholarly fashion the influence of the Israeli Lobby in U.S. politics. Their arguments were neither conspiratorial nor antisemitic but a careful analysis of real data. Like any publication, their conclusions are certainly up for debate but in no way was the work antisemitic nor they individually antisemites. And yet. Both men received tremendous backlash and were labeled by many as antisemitic. It was only their high stature in their fields and tenured position that saved their careers. Except that 20 years later much of what they wrote has not only proven true but forced out into the open. When there can be no debate, when anything critical of Israel becomes antisemitic, when reality can't be discussed for fear of professional ruin, fuel is only added to the conspiracists, rascist and their ilk. Lastly I'll mention zionism itself which you describe as the rather banal Jewish self determinism. Only this isn't what the founders of zionism describe it as. From its inception zionism was an ethnonational movement. It was born in the roaring furnace of the late 19th century where ethnonationalist ideologies were forged. Theodore Herzl wrote extensively in support of this idea and championed the colonization of Palestine from the outset. Zionism is a product of its time, where nationalism permeated all corners of political thought and where ethnic identity was tantamount to national identity. In an era of empire and colonizers, the idea of one people infiltrating and taking the lands of another was not just de rigueur but non controversial. Zionism is an archaic survivor of an era that brought the worst tragedy to both the Jewish people and the human race. It has no place in a rational, pluralist, liberal society. And even if many Jewish people believe in your soft definition of zionism, it has never been practiced as such. And thus we have the final disconnect. The state of Israel itself has spent a great deal of time and effort conflating Jewish identity and Israeli identity. Netanyahu himself has publicly proclaimed as much in speeches and interviews. It goes far beyond that. Even in its earliest days Israel went to great lengths to drive this home. Efforts by organizations like Cadima, the Mossad backed zionist group pressuring jews to leave Morroco where they had been settled for 2000 years! Israel has taken on the role of speaking for all Jews. Whether this is true or not is no longer relevant as Jews outside of Israel do not push back against this. What we are seeing in Israel now is the endgame of ethnonationalism. It is following the same pattern of every ethno state before it. Its my great hope that all zionists banal or otherwise can recognize what this archaic ideology has done to a storied, proud and wonderful people and reject it before it consumes them.
The ultimate end of super assimilation is self-hatred: I’m one of the good ones! I hate Israel/religious Jews/etc too! It won’t save you from their hate and worse by blindly agreeing w them and begging for their acceptance as they spit on you, beat you, terrorize you in your “no more kings” fashion shirt
2500 years of Christian persecution and still at it - But the only remnants of the ghettos exist where jews (those outside Israel) allow themselves to cower in fear instead of kicking these bullies asses - Never Again is the only way - The Israeli way!
2500 years, eh? Perhaps remedial math would benefit you?
Tell us the WHY of this "Christian persecution." You can start with "Yeshu" being said to be punished "in Hell" with "boiling hot excrement." You can then go on to what Dhu Nuwas and others did.
They ignore left-wing antisemitism, not all do, and blame Israel and Netanyahu.
Speech by Vladimir Lenin:
“Anti-Jewish Pogroms”
Recorded: March 1919
“Anti-Semitism means spreading enmity towards the Jews. When the accursed tsarist monarchy was living its last days it tried to incite ignorant workers and peasants against the Jews. The tsarist police, in alliance with the landowners and the capitalists, organised pogroms against the Jews. The landowners and capitalists tried to divert the hatred of the workers and peasants who were tortured by want against the Jews. In other countries, too, we often see the capitalists fomenting hatred against the Jews in order to blind the workers, to divert their attention from the real enemy of the working people, capital. Hatred towards the Jews persists only in those countries where slavery to the landowners and capitalists has created abysmal ignorance among the workers and peasants. Only the most ignorant and downtrodden people can believe the lies and slander that are spread about the Jews. This is a survival of ancient feudal times, when the priests burned heretics at the stake, when the peasants lived in slavery, and when the people were crushed and inarticulate. This ancient, feudal ignorance is passing away; the eyes of the people are being opened.
It is not the Jews who are the enemies of the working people. The enemies of the workers are the capitalists of all countries. Among the Jews there are working people, and they form the majority. They are our brothers, who, like us, are oppressed by capital; they are our comrades in the struggle for socialism. Among the Jews there are kulaks, exploiters and capitalists, just as there are among the Russians, and among people of all nations. The capitalists strive to sow and foment hatred between workers of different faiths, different nations and different races. Those who do not work are kept in power by the power and strength of capital. Rich Jews, like rich Russians, and the rich in all countries, are in alliance to oppress, crush, rob and disunite the workers.
Shame on accursed tsarism which tortured and persecuted the Jews. Shame on those who foment hatred towards the Jews, who foment hatred towards other nations.
Long live the fraternal trust and fighting alliance of the workers of all nations in the struggle to overthrow capital.”
______
Collected Works Volume 29
Lenin Works Archive
SPEECHES ON GRAMOPHONE RECORDS
V. I. Lenin
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1919/mar/x10.htm
Antizionism has always been antisemitism.
It began with the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, ffs.
The refusal of progressives to listen to Jews is why I’m a former progressive.
Notice how the one being attacked by the anti-semites is AOC, arguably the most left person in the federal government.
There are purportedly leftist antisemites online and in some edgelord campus communities, but I find they pretty much uniformly reserve all of their anger for Democrats and are thoroughly silent about Trump's committing the full force of the US military to Netanyahu's goals.
There's a huge difference between the left and right here. On the left, you have a few loud but ultimately powerless people getting into antisemitism, and it's not even clear when they're actual leftists or neo Nazis cosplaying. Meanwhile on the right, you have the leader of the government hanging out with Nick Fuentes and Kanye West, you have Elon Musk and his coalition of right wing billionaires buying Twitter and welcoming back open neo Nazis with totenkopfs and swastikas in the profiles, hardly attempting to disguise his own antisemitism.
That's the real reason people like me get sick of hearing about this. It's like if we're actually going to have concentration camps in this country, it's not the left that's going to be the ones building them. It's the people who are doing the trial version with immigrant detention camps right now.
Laughably and dangerously incorrect. Without Trump, religious Christians, and Republicans-the Deadly Jew/Israel Hating Democrats would have us in camps already
I mean Democrats have run the government several times and that hasn't happened. FDR was president when the camps were liberated and he's still seen as the historical hero of the party and the most leftist president in history. Meanwhile Republicans have adopted the mantra of his antisemitic opponents who wanted to let Hitler do whatever he wants - "America First". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_First_Committee
You could call it a dog whistle, but humans should be able to hear it loud and clear by now.
Rather standard liberal pablum. The greater danger to the Jews has been building for 30 years. Only one party has passionately fostered and celebrated it. Only one party contains the most powerful and popular anti Jewish and anti Israel racists. Not one red trumpy hat among the violent hateful anti Jewish mobs celebrating Hamas or the intifada were there?
Lol who are you talking about? Mamdani? The mayor of the most Jewish city in America? Oh right, his wife liked a post that could be seen as controversial if you totally misrepresent the context. Checkmate libs!
The funny thing is I find myself making the opposite arguments with you as I do with the actual far left, defending Democrats from opposite sides. My replies are full of people talking about how Biden/Harris are too pro-Israel (https://substack.com/@bigredmeatstick/note/c-230847780?r=1mx3ns&utm_source=notes-share-action&utm_medium=web) . Also FYI most openly antisemitic people on the far right, who I also argue with, are also very pro-Trump. That's the difference: left antisemites hate Democrats, right antisemites love Republicans.
But hey, if you, far-right antisemites, and far-left antisemites can all join hands and together elect a racist pedophile rapist president, who says there's no hope humanity unite behind a common purpose?
Not a student of well established history are you. The modern unprecedented amount of holocaust level Jew hatred didn’t just start with the democrats Nazi embrace of Hamas and intifada, There is a long list going back decades that caused the unprecedented Jew and Israel hatred in modern America and again all of the most powerful popular and influential leaders were from the left from Farrakhan Sharpton Jackson Pressley Sarsour tlaib Omar Ellison the entire Bds movement Carter etc
Yeah I don't think I need to tell you about what happens when we go back decades with the right. Fine, I'm not going to convince you. Call us when your "allies" turn on you and throw you in the camps again, then you'll learn why your grandparents appreciated the side that fights for the powerless.
https://jewishdems.org/donald-trumps-antisemitic-record/
I generally agree with you, and totally reject the both-sidesing of this issue (let alone the blaming the left *more* than the right). That said, I think as we’re now seeing the horseshoeing of left-wing antisemitism (e.g. in the context of anti-imperialism / anti-Zionism) with right-wing antisemitism (e.g. Tucker Carlson), the danger is more than a few trivial edgelords. And there is often clear antisemitism at pro-Palestine events (e.g. the action in Queens) — not ambiguous “is it anti-zionism or antisemitism” stuff but clear hate speech. So I agree, the crisis on the left is nothing like the crisis on the right, but it does exist and it does betray our values and does empower those seeking to undermine us.
Thank you for this thoughtful piece. It needed to be said. I’m sick and tired of dumbfucks on the left who either can’t or won’t deal with this. That being said, the weaponisation of anti semitism in the cause of support for Israel’s inexcusable conduct also fills me with fury.
I share100% of both of those emotional reactions. Thanks.
Progressives, now, have become critics of Israel, and some have exhibited antisemitism, because of Israel's persistence in fighting in Gaza after a devastating campaign in Gaza following the October 7th, 2023 Hamas surprise killing attack against southern Israel. Your comprehensive article fails to comment on the underlying moral and ethical principles upon which the Israelis base their continued fighting. The answer lies within the Hamas Charter of 1988 (which was not repudiated in its 2017 revision), in which Hamas advocated its intent to seek out and kill Jews. In addition, it's pertinent to understand the admonishment of Jews not to kill, except when attacked and facing death at the hands of others. In that instance, even when responding to such a threat, the Jews are obliged to provide their enemy an escape route. Finally, Israel has always left open the "escape route" of a Hamas surrender with an accompanying release of all hostages. It is noteworthy that Hamas' attack was against men, women, children, young and old included. Hamas was under no instructions to spare "innocent Jews". In the Torah, the Jews' response similarly did not distinguish between enemy persons on the basis of age, sex or any other criterion. So , it is on the basis of these facts that one can conclude that the conflict in Gaza might not end until there is a surrender of Hamas or Israel and all hostages are exchanged.
It would have been useful to provide these facts to enable one to understand how Israel could persist in their effort to find and kill Hamas members.
Considering the Left truly enjoys cozying up to Muslim and Islamic organizations and politics, which have ABSOLUTELY NO PLACE in Western society, is it any wonder that Jews are distressed by Antisemitism?
As someone who has studied Islam DECADES before it became politicized and weaponized, a more disturbing popular world religion does not exist.
The top 20 terrorist organizations recognized by the CIA and the top 20 terrorists recognized by the FBI are ALL ISLAMIC. Just a co-incidence, right? Maybe we need a study to prove whether they're all terrorists or not?
But let's keep banging the drum of suicidal empathy and "diversity is our strength" as all the while, diversity continues to fracture and weaken the West and it's alliances.
At this point the Left is utterly clueless to the damage they are wreaking on Western society. Is it any wonder that there are protests in every country of the world to stop it and their catastrophic Globalist agenda?
Whine more, magatard.
"Hunter Biden's laptop 😢😭!!"
Why do you assume I'm MAGA, trollbot?
Sh’koyekh and Shabbat shalom!
Excellent. Thank you for this.
Just the fact that you would suggest “globalize the intifada” means “globalize the non-violent struggle for Palestinian liberation” in any possible case makes me extremely dismissive of much else that you have to say. No self-respecting Palestinian in Gaza or the West Bank (or London or New York) would EVER agree with your interpretation, except in English to gullible westerners.
Suggest checking about @movementagainstantizionism on Substack (not “right wing”, by the way) or their website at https://www.movementagainstantizionism.org/
Founder is Adam Louis-Klein, a PhD candidate in anthropology. He’s not right-wing. He’s on Substack, too.
Jews have successfully lived peacefully and prosperously in hundreds of societies across history. How did they do so? They followed that "anti-Semite," Jesus Christ's teaching, "love thy neighbor as they self." "Anti-Semitism" does not occur "for no reason."
The overwhelming problem for Jews today was and remains "Israel," which looks a lot like Nazi Germany in so many ways to Gentiles and many Jews alike.
“Looks a lot” to anyone who’s ever been there, or looks a lot to consumers of propaganda who have never been there?
Are you implying that because "Israel" has beautiful places and advanced urban areas it "can't be Nazi"? That's amusing, when you compare the color photography of the Third Reich's society. A "very orderly society," in both cases.
What a ridiculous comment. I’m implying nothing; I’m stating as a categorical fact that anyone who has ever been to Israel would realize that as a society it looks nothing like Nazi Germany. The only people who believe that are consumers of propaganda or people with an ideological axe to grind
Tell me, what DID the Third Reich "look like"? Do you think there was an Auschwitz on the corner of the intersection, and a Dachau on the other? No, it looked a lot like any other advanced society to the vast majority. Except for the militarism and ethnic supremacy underlying its "public policy."
The difference between Antizionism and antisemitism is mostly an academic one. Irl it’s a get-out-of-jail-free card for progressives who want to justify something anyone would plainly understand as antisemitic.
"They do not define it as requiring that Palestinian society be eradicated, hospitals in Gaza bombed, or settler thugs allowed to conduct pogroms in the West Bank. Of course, it is the official policy of the current Israeli government to do all of these. But to many American Jews that is the result of the Netanyahu regime, not “Zionism” itself."
The record shows that that has been the official policy of Zionism, even before the creation of Israel. American Jews are mostly responsible for the creation of Israel and supported its oppressive policies until recently. Unfair to the present generation, they are intimately identified with the development of genocidal Israel.
Sad self hatred. Please get some help
If you have nothing to say, use an insulting worn out cliche.
The help we need is from people like you, whose undying support for apartheid Israel has caused mass hatred of Jews and placed innocent Jews in jeopardy. Israel and its supporters are responsible for the genocide of the Palestinian people and attacks on the Jewish people.
Ah! The deadly refrain that the Jews are causing their own abuse and hatred!
It is like some elitist pre World War Two German Jews surprised as they are forced to join the death trains, shouting “We are we are the good ones! We hate Israel/thejews/bibi too!” Hyper partisan self righteous blindness. Your ahistorical, deliberate misuse of the horrifying words genocide and apartheid is abusive and demeans the actual unprecedented terror and horror and suffering horrors of the Jews
i don't need disparaging remarks from you, who uses the deaths of my close relatives who were killed in the camps of World War II, to play victim and lecture me. I did I not write that Jews were "causing their own abuse and hatred." I wrote that "Israel and its supporters are responsible." We Jews had great lives in America until people like you came along.
That’s funny! “Came along” My family is one of the oldest American Jewish families and you obviously know nothing about how we were forced to survive and adapt here. Scratch an Israel/Bibi/IDF hater and you will find a Nazi or a blind, self-hating Kapo. We are in great danger and primarily from those who hate us the most-demonstrably from the Liberal/Left/Democrat/Progressive side. As my teen patients say: Own it, boomer
Good for yourancestors, what does it have to do with anything? All immigrants, including my parents, have to work hard to adapt everywhere, including the Mizrahim in Israel. Be glad you are Jewish and not Oriental, Black, Native American, Latino, Irish or Catholic, and that you belong to the best educated, healthiest, and wealthiest contingent in America. Keep up this diatribe and show others the ignorance and danger of Israel's supporters.
I appreciate what you have written and your attempt to define antisemitism and zionism or perhaps more accurately remind readers of earlier meanings. While I appreciate, however, I cannot entirely agree. You remark how statements regarding The Israeli Lobby rise to the level of conspiratorial antisemitism. I am reminded of John Mearsheimer and Steven M. Walts seminal "The Israeli Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy" published in 2007. In it, two of the most respected foreign policy and international relations experts of their generation methodically and precisely lay out in scholarly fashion the influence of the Israeli Lobby in U.S. politics. Their arguments were neither conspiratorial nor antisemitic but a careful analysis of real data. Like any publication, their conclusions are certainly up for debate but in no way was the work antisemitic nor they individually antisemites. And yet. Both men received tremendous backlash and were labeled by many as antisemitic. It was only their high stature in their fields and tenured position that saved their careers. Except that 20 years later much of what they wrote has not only proven true but forced out into the open. When there can be no debate, when anything critical of Israel becomes antisemitic, when reality can't be discussed for fear of professional ruin, fuel is only added to the conspiracists, rascist and their ilk. Lastly I'll mention zionism itself which you describe as the rather banal Jewish self determinism. Only this isn't what the founders of zionism describe it as. From its inception zionism was an ethnonational movement. It was born in the roaring furnace of the late 19th century where ethnonationalist ideologies were forged. Theodore Herzl wrote extensively in support of this idea and championed the colonization of Palestine from the outset. Zionism is a product of its time, where nationalism permeated all corners of political thought and where ethnic identity was tantamount to national identity. In an era of empire and colonizers, the idea of one people infiltrating and taking the lands of another was not just de rigueur but non controversial. Zionism is an archaic survivor of an era that brought the worst tragedy to both the Jewish people and the human race. It has no place in a rational, pluralist, liberal society. And even if many Jewish people believe in your soft definition of zionism, it has never been practiced as such. And thus we have the final disconnect. The state of Israel itself has spent a great deal of time and effort conflating Jewish identity and Israeli identity. Netanyahu himself has publicly proclaimed as much in speeches and interviews. It goes far beyond that. Even in its earliest days Israel went to great lengths to drive this home. Efforts by organizations like Cadima, the Mossad backed zionist group pressuring jews to leave Morroco where they had been settled for 2000 years! Israel has taken on the role of speaking for all Jews. Whether this is true or not is no longer relevant as Jews outside of Israel do not push back against this. What we are seeing in Israel now is the endgame of ethnonationalism. It is following the same pattern of every ethno state before it. Its my great hope that all zionists banal or otherwise can recognize what this archaic ideology has done to a storied, proud and wonderful people and reject it before it consumes them.
The ultimate end of super assimilation is self-hatred: I’m one of the good ones! I hate Israel/religious Jews/etc too! It won’t save you from their hate and worse by blindly agreeing w them and begging for their acceptance as they spit on you, beat you, terrorize you in your “no more kings” fashion shirt
Not sure what that actually means other than apparently childish name calling.
2500 years of Christian persecution and still at it - But the only remnants of the ghettos exist where jews (those outside Israel) allow themselves to cower in fear instead of kicking these bullies asses - Never Again is the only way - The Israeli way!
2500 years, eh? Perhaps remedial math would benefit you?
Tell us the WHY of this "Christian persecution." You can start with "Yeshu" being said to be punished "in Hell" with "boiling hot excrement." You can then go on to what Dhu Nuwas and others did.
Cool story bro but the Yeshu in the Talmud rebelled against a king 100 years before Jesus was born. It’s a common name
And yet, Peter Schäfer has demonstrated in his work, Jesus in the Talmud, that Jesus of Nazareth is exactly who "Yeshu" is intended to be.
you need some serious mental assistance -lol
I accept your UNCONDITIONAL surrender.
Pro-Tip: when you disagree with someone's assertions, SHOW how they are "wrong," if applicable.
How are you wrong? By being a conspiracy-addled loon.
https://substack.com/@johntokalenko
"There is only one way to cover up the distribution of the deadliest depopulation bioweapon in history, rolled out after a fake pandemic."
Yet another one who has no arguments and just goes for the ad hominem.
The cancer stats showing an "unexpected rapid increase" in 2021 is "just an anomaly." LOL
Show me those "cancer stats," Own-Researcher. Which types of tumors? In what populations?
Use CDC or ASCO, or NHS or Health Canada, or one of the outstanding Scandinavian health registries.
All you can do is parrot talking points.