You've highlighted a very critical issue of our society and raise some problems i've been feeling without clearly identifying them. You both helped me to clarify my thoughts. Thank you for that!
I had hoped that, through this dialogue, which is occurring 8 years into an ongoing assault on our institutions and Democratic framework, there would be some concrete proposals.
We have a year to figure out short-term solutions to ward off societal and democratic collapse, yet Mr. Powell is debating the fine points of the first amendment.
Even those of us who don't have the luxury of exploring liberalism and illiberalism for a living are well aware that most every democracy (other than the US) does restrict forms of hate speech and propaganda...it strengthens vs weakens their democracies.
I've no idea what the point was of this discussion, but I'm none the wiser for it.
"Ongoing assault"? That's exactly what your adversaries claim is underway -- and why they consider this a state of emergency, with no time to "waste" on discussion. See Michael Anton on "The Flight 93 Election," or "America at the Point of No Return.”
In their looking-glass world, claims of "white supremacy" and "cisheteronormativity" (and the entire worldview and vocabulary in which those claims are couched) are merely divisive "conspiracy theories."
Is that the sort of world you want to live in -- mutual invalidation, "my way or the highway" -- refusing to acknowledge that there's any other choice? Is that the claim you've staked on "our" democracy? If so, count me out.
Liberalism (in the sense of "live and let live") is a core value, not a "luxury"! You've mistaken the problem for a solution. I may disagree with Mr. Powell on some of the "fine points," but at least he's trying to disentangle the predicament we're in, so that we might find a way to extricate ourselves.
I've read these discussion points for the past 8 years.
If our democracy is continuing to fray, the answer cannot be continue to do what we've always done.
When polls show an increasing trend of comfort with political violence on both sides of the aisle, more than mere discussion is needed.
What is your answer for the normalization of hatred and the open plans for autocratic rule should Trump be elected...or the ongoing decimation of democracy at the state level...where decisions by the people in Ohio are ignored and decisions by SCOTUS in Alabama are flouted?
I'm glad i've been listening to your debate.
You've highlighted a very critical issue of our society and raise some problems i've been feeling without clearly identifying them. You both helped me to clarify my thoughts. Thank you for that!
I had hoped that, through this dialogue, which is occurring 8 years into an ongoing assault on our institutions and Democratic framework, there would be some concrete proposals.
We have a year to figure out short-term solutions to ward off societal and democratic collapse, yet Mr. Powell is debating the fine points of the first amendment.
Even those of us who don't have the luxury of exploring liberalism and illiberalism for a living are well aware that most every democracy (other than the US) does restrict forms of hate speech and propaganda...it strengthens vs weakens their democracies.
I've no idea what the point was of this discussion, but I'm none the wiser for it.
"Ongoing assault"? That's exactly what your adversaries claim is underway -- and why they consider this a state of emergency, with no time to "waste" on discussion. See Michael Anton on "The Flight 93 Election," or "America at the Point of No Return.”
In their looking-glass world, claims of "white supremacy" and "cisheteronormativity" (and the entire worldview and vocabulary in which those claims are couched) are merely divisive "conspiracy theories."
Is that the sort of world you want to live in -- mutual invalidation, "my way or the highway" -- refusing to acknowledge that there's any other choice? Is that the claim you've staked on "our" democracy? If so, count me out.
Liberalism (in the sense of "live and let live") is a core value, not a "luxury"! You've mistaken the problem for a solution. I may disagree with Mr. Powell on some of the "fine points," but at least he's trying to disentangle the predicament we're in, so that we might find a way to extricate ourselves.
As the song says, "I swear it's not too late."
I've read these discussion points for the past 8 years.
If our democracy is continuing to fray, the answer cannot be continue to do what we've always done.
When polls show an increasing trend of comfort with political violence on both sides of the aisle, more than mere discussion is needed.
What is your answer for the normalization of hatred and the open plans for autocratic rule should Trump be elected...or the ongoing decimation of democracy at the state level...where decisions by the people in Ohio are ignored and decisions by SCOTUS in Alabama are flouted?