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Warden Gulley's avatar

Does anybody remember a viral pandemic which occurred about 5 years ago? Society mobilized, a new type of vaccination was conceived and there was immense opportunity for new medical treatments as a result of Project Warp Speed. Did the President at that time use it as a means of unifying the nation? No. He used it to divide us and set us one upon the other in the most vicious way. And it is still playing out today. It is said that leaders model behavior which is emulated by their followers. If they are noble, honest and just, the populace engages in similar behavior. But this? This is the grotesque destruction of a once great society.

Randolph Carter's avatar

Yes, we all remember when Trump went on tirades about the "pandemic of the unvaccinated" and yet also suggested that you shouldn't take the vaccine that his opponents cooked up because you can't trust them... That was pretty awful of Trump.

Randolph Carter's avatar

Almost all federal politicians are principle-free self dealing grifters at this point, and it's weird to pretend that one group of them is significantly better than the others

Berny Belvedere's avatar

The idea that Trump is insufficiently distinct from his predecessors on matters related to presidential norms and rules, and that his words and actions are more or less continuous with theirs, is a preposterous false equivalence that has, at least in part, prolonged his presence atop our politics. He relies on anti-anti apologetics of all kinds, including the version you're modeling here, to be able to sell to a sufficient number of people that he's within the normal range of presidential behavior—and he's manifestly not.

Randolph Carter's avatar

LBJ whipped his dick out in front of a group of reporters in reply to being asked why we were in Vietnam, pointed to it, and said "this is why" - what are the norms we're talking about here?

Virginia Postrel's avatar

Bill Clinton definitely used the Oklahoma City bombing as a tool against the Republican Congress. But his use was rhetorical, which was unfair and annoying but not dangerous the way Trump-style vengeance is.

E. W. Zepp's avatar

So, no one should bother investigating any of this. After all antifa’s just an idea. Amirite?

SV's avatar

The 'other presidents have tried to heal America' is laughable after a decade of the far Left stoking hatred against the right.

Most people at the center and on the right have basically stayed in their positions as the Left has pulled it's way so far left that they've moved into the stratosphere.

It seems that some still do not realize that the majority now see through the delusion the Left has tried to maintain for the past 10 years, and the reaction of the Right is nothing more than trying to pull those in the Far left back to earth.

Johann Schott's avatar

Well, there is pulling and then there is yanking as this administration is doing.

And I’d contend that you in in error of not understanding history, and especially the political history of the right over the last two decades, when you state this the right has not shifted.

Bull shit! Both have shifted, the left more so after George Floyd (I live here and felt it), now this! The right sifted into literal authoritarianism, that THIS administration IS trying to yank us into as a counter.

It will come for you eventually.

Forget the average German thought that they were safe, and it was only the Jews?

Well, just how well did that work out?

E. W. Zepp's avatar

After years of trying to excuse or ignore the left’s perhaps some folks just decide not to take it anymore.

Pablo Neves's avatar

Afternoon, Berny.

I hope a legal colonoscopy is applied to every Soros NGO, every USAID cutout, every Norm Eisen lawfare move, and any other color revolution crap our tax dollars are paying for.

This divisiveness and hatred - on both sides - was paid for by us.

*** Edit: this is @directorblue not Pablo - seems like a Substack error? ***

Shikha Dalmia's avatar

Yup, and when the next Democratic president comes to power, s/he can do the same to every rich rightwinger who funded TPUSA, unless you think the fascist takeover by this regime is so complete that no Dem is ever going to get elected. PS: I am pointing out the logic of your wish, but sincerely hope Dems don't go this route.

Pablo Neves's avatar

Too late. Dems already did it.

Look up Arctic Frost today.

I want a lawful remedy to the way Obama weaponized government.

The Illustrated Spygate is a good place to start… 13 episodes up so far.

https://open.substack.com/pub/directorblue/p/the-illustrated-spygate-scandal-part-306?r=ch1ue&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true

Mark T's avatar

Claiming Islam is a religion of peace is about as credible as the reporters who stand in front of burning cars and shops and claim "mostly peaceful protestors". Perhaps Bush thought he needed to say that for political reasons but decades of evidence, particularly since the fatwa on Rushdie (and as well as 9/11 itself and the manifesto), proves otherwise.