The first amendment to the USA constitution in its very first line states that congress may make no law establishing a religion . Therefore , what the Pope , or any minister of any religion has to say is meaningless. No religion controls the USA . Every citizen has the free exercise to worship any supernatural being that he or she wishes too but that is all. No religion rules in the USA rules .
So who cares what the pope says ? Catholicism , christianity , Judaism Hinduism nor the muslims has no say in what course the USA government pursues .
I don’t believe the Pope was demanding to “establish” his church in the US, nor was he trying to “control” the country, nor was he trying to “rule” the US, all the things you seem to insinuate him of doing. He was doing exactly what JD Vance said a religious leader should do, namely attending to “moral” matters (and not matters of state). Except that Vance, a recent convert to Catholicism from a fundamentalist Protestant denomination, does not himself know how the Catholic Church views “morals”.
There is a complete separation of the church and the state in the USA . The Pope should confine his opinions to his parishioners . The rest of us simply do not care .
What is the Popes moral leadership . The catholic religion is responsible for more murders in the past 3000 years than any other religion . Peace ? They ruled with an iron hand for 2500 years . Their only morality is to love your brother . Did they ever live by that doctrine ? No.
A wonderful reflection with some theological depth--- not well articulated in the mainstream media.
The thing that I have known of Catholic politicians during my life time has been their reticence to weigh in on matters of theology because they know that they are not in a position to argue especially with the magisterium of the Church. When they have (apparently) disagreed with Church teaching they have tended to remain silent and justified their differences on social and legal grounds. Only Justice Alito has tried to elevate his theological ignorance into law and the result was underwhelming and unpersuasive. The rest of the Catholic justices have upheld capital punishment in spite of the Church's loud pronouncements because they have understood that they are there to look at laws of the government as they are not as any one of them might wish them to be.
Poor JD Vance is not just wrong but entirely out of his depth. He is willing to expose himself as a shallow. As a convert he should have also known that Catholics owe "religious submission of will and intellect" to the ordinary (noninfallible) teaching authority of the Pope. He does not need to praise but he also does not have the standing to debate the issue. Any doubts he has should be discussed between his confessor and not FOXNews hosts. Especially when he does so to defend those making outrageous claims like the President he serves.
This is a scandal for the Church community and a grotesque display of arrogance.
JD Vance’s attitude is clearly un-Catholic, but can it still be claimed to be un-American? I am afraid that this attitude is perceived as very American indeed by many countries around the world. Perhaps it is time to redefine, of reestablish what - in moral terms - it means to be American. And I don’t mean on an individual level of politeness, or helpfulness, or community, but as a World power
You could say, if you were trying to be polite, that JV Dunce is the most ideologically flexible politician in US history. Or … you could just be truthful and say he’s a sycophantic status-obsessed narcissist who once said tRump is America’s Hitler and will literally do anything to get power - up to and including cosplaying Catholicism. Beware of the 25th amendment - JV might be even worse than the Mad King.
The first amendment to the USA constitution in its very first line states that congress may make no law establishing a religion . Therefore , what the Pope , or any minister of any religion has to say is meaningless. No religion controls the USA . Every citizen has the free exercise to worship any supernatural being that he or she wishes too but that is all. No religion rules in the USA rules .
So who cares what the pope says ? Catholicism , christianity , Judaism Hinduism nor the muslims has no say in what course the USA government pursues .
I don’t believe the Pope was demanding to “establish” his church in the US, nor was he trying to “control” the country, nor was he trying to “rule” the US, all the things you seem to insinuate him of doing. He was doing exactly what JD Vance said a religious leader should do, namely attending to “moral” matters (and not matters of state). Except that Vance, a recent convert to Catholicism from a fundamentalist Protestant denomination, does not himself know how the Catholic Church views “morals”.
There is a complete separation of the church and the state in the USA . The Pope should confine his opinions to his parishioners . The rest of us simply do not care .
What you are suggesting is that the Pope not only refrain from exercising his moral leadership but also his free speech rights.
What is the Popes moral leadership . The catholic religion is responsible for more murders in the past 3000 years than any other religion . Peace ? They ruled with an iron hand for 2500 years . Their only morality is to love your brother . Did they ever live by that doctrine ? No.
1. Trump would not have won the presidency without the Catholic vote.
2. Conservatives have never respected the separation of church and state, claiming to represent Christian values.
3. alienate Catholics is enough to cause the Republican Party to lose future elections.
A wonderful reflection with some theological depth--- not well articulated in the mainstream media.
The thing that I have known of Catholic politicians during my life time has been their reticence to weigh in on matters of theology because they know that they are not in a position to argue especially with the magisterium of the Church. When they have (apparently) disagreed with Church teaching they have tended to remain silent and justified their differences on social and legal grounds. Only Justice Alito has tried to elevate his theological ignorance into law and the result was underwhelming and unpersuasive. The rest of the Catholic justices have upheld capital punishment in spite of the Church's loud pronouncements because they have understood that they are there to look at laws of the government as they are not as any one of them might wish them to be.
Poor JD Vance is not just wrong but entirely out of his depth. He is willing to expose himself as a shallow. As a convert he should have also known that Catholics owe "religious submission of will and intellect" to the ordinary (noninfallible) teaching authority of the Pope. He does not need to praise but he also does not have the standing to debate the issue. Any doubts he has should be discussed between his confessor and not FOXNews hosts. Especially when he does so to defend those making outrageous claims like the President he serves.
This is a scandal for the Church community and a grotesque display of arrogance.
JD Vance’s attitude is clearly un-Catholic, but can it still be claimed to be un-American? I am afraid that this attitude is perceived as very American indeed by many countries around the world. Perhaps it is time to redefine, of reestablish what - in moral terms - it means to be American. And I don’t mean on an individual level of politeness, or helpfulness, or community, but as a World power
You could say, if you were trying to be polite, that JV Dunce is the most ideologically flexible politician in US history. Or … you could just be truthful and say he’s a sycophantic status-obsessed narcissist who once said tRump is America’s Hitler and will literally do anything to get power - up to and including cosplaying Catholicism. Beware of the 25th amendment - JV might be even worse than the Mad King.