You're recommending Marquess of Queensberry Rules in a street fight with anything handy as a weapon.
You can stand on principle, and go down getting blamed by a uneducated electorate. Pursue protections for the poor needing health insurance coverage, and then hit the road selling it to constituents. Go after new voters like never before. GET OUT THE VOTE. And win back at least the House if not both the House and Senate.
The ONLY way to take these guys down is at the ballot box. Period.
Schumer is making the best of a bad situation. But the democrats need a better option to offer the American people and so far they haven’t. Kamala give me a break! Read her book and recent interviews and tell me the democrats really offered a great alternative. Ditto with Clinton and Biden. The democrats need to really offer someone who is for the people, like Mamdani!!!
Thank you Mr. Craig. This political conflict is no longer about policy or debating issues. That era is gone. Trump's Project 2025 is designed to become a permanent political regime which never relinquishes power. Democrats are still clinging to their identity politics and the belief that policy prevails. Policy as a political force is gone. The Democrats' fantasy of MediCare for All is a pipe dream that will not win even if there is another election. And all those government employees that would lose their jobs during a shutdown? Trump'll fire them anyway. That's the plan. He fired the Congress. He pretty much has fired the Supreme Court. The separation between the DOJ and the president is gone. The independence of the FBI is gone. The game is up unless the Democrats hold their ground and play hardball.
But who's gonna' get blamed for the disasters it unleashes? And the Rs can bundle anything else that fails into the same "It's because of the government shutdown the Dems caused." and who will argue with them?
And how did that work out for the Rs the last time they did it?
Any lessons there?
Righteousness is OK. Winning is better. Based on past history this is a BIG vote loser, though "past performance is no guarantee of future results."
It was bad enough for Ds to accept a situation where shutdowns are blamed on Ds regardless who is in charge during more approximately normal times. It is national suicide to allow that now. Not saying it's easy to change that, but we can't just accept it.
It's a consequence of being the party that wants things to actually work, and of voters judging parties against their own goals, not objectively. But we need to do something about it.
"We" don't have a choice. Faux News and the Fauxed up people who watch it will make sure of that. Just like ThRump, we got no ammo so we end up taking one for ... the team? The people? You decide.
Don't do anything Fox News and the GOP will attack you for implies don't do literally anything. There's no scenario where Dems cave and get a bunch of credit and favorable coverage from right-wing media for it.
• Dems to get their caca together and make the tent bigger, MUCH bigger. Talk about ALL of us, not each interest group one speech at a time. Make some coalitions. "We understand you. We support you. But we will NOT say that in public. You have NO future with 'the other guys'. Stay with us and help us get in a position to help YOU."
• I don't think they need a policy plan. NOBODY in any country on earth knows how to fix this digital revolution mess. There is no clear way to "a path of predictable progress" that we've lost, and the sooner they realize that and instead work on bigger, more personal/emotional issues, the better. TALK to the people!!!
• ThRump has to massively fail. That won't bring over the 30% but it will convince some of the Swingers so that the Ds can return to power and stop the slaughter of our country and liberal system. NOTHING can happen until he fails. He's got all the ammo.
Sounds about right. I'd add a 4th that's corrolary to 2: have ideas. If you're not going to be a policy wonk, at least have some high-level ideas. I hear this from young people all the time - they, or their friends, are leaning right because the left is out of ideas. We had liberalism, they say, and we got high divorce rates and Chapel Roan winning a Grammy, and now they'd like something else.
You're recommending Marquess of Queensberry Rules in a street fight with anything handy as a weapon.
You can stand on principle, and go down getting blamed by a uneducated electorate. Pursue protections for the poor needing health insurance coverage, and then hit the road selling it to constituents. Go after new voters like never before. GET OUT THE VOTE. And win back at least the House if not both the House and Senate.
The ONLY way to take these guys down is at the ballot box. Period.
Schumer is making the best of a bad situation. But the democrats need a better option to offer the American people and so far they haven’t. Kamala give me a break! Read her book and recent interviews and tell me the democrats really offered a great alternative. Ditto with Clinton and Biden. The democrats need to really offer someone who is for the people, like Mamdani!!!
Thank you Mr. Craig. This political conflict is no longer about policy or debating issues. That era is gone. Trump's Project 2025 is designed to become a permanent political regime which never relinquishes power. Democrats are still clinging to their identity politics and the belief that policy prevails. Policy as a political force is gone. The Democrats' fantasy of MediCare for All is a pipe dream that will not win even if there is another election. And all those government employees that would lose their jobs during a shutdown? Trump'll fire them anyway. That's the plan. He fired the Congress. He pretty much has fired the Supreme Court. The separation between the DOJ and the president is gone. The independence of the FBI is gone. The game is up unless the Democrats hold their ground and play hardball.
But who's gonna' get blamed for the disasters it unleashes? And the Rs can bundle anything else that fails into the same "It's because of the government shutdown the Dems caused." and who will argue with them?
And how did that work out for the Rs the last time they did it?
Any lessons there?
Righteousness is OK. Winning is better. Based on past history this is a BIG vote loser, though "past performance is no guarantee of future results."
It was bad enough for Ds to accept a situation where shutdowns are blamed on Ds regardless who is in charge during more approximately normal times. It is national suicide to allow that now. Not saying it's easy to change that, but we can't just accept it.
It's a consequence of being the party that wants things to actually work, and of voters judging parties against their own goals, not objectively. But we need to do something about it.
"We" don't have a choice. Faux News and the Fauxed up people who watch it will make sure of that. Just like ThRump, we got no ammo so we end up taking one for ... the team? The people? You decide.
Don't do anything Fox News and the GOP will attack you for implies don't do literally anything. There's no scenario where Dems cave and get a bunch of credit and favorable coverage from right-wing media for it.
Well, I'd say we're taking one against the people. If we allow the model of Rs break, Ds fix, to persist in this age, the country will not survive.
I'd say you're right! On both counts.
Seems to me all we can hope for is:
• Dems to get their caca together and make the tent bigger, MUCH bigger. Talk about ALL of us, not each interest group one speech at a time. Make some coalitions. "We understand you. We support you. But we will NOT say that in public. You have NO future with 'the other guys'. Stay with us and help us get in a position to help YOU."
• I don't think they need a policy plan. NOBODY in any country on earth knows how to fix this digital revolution mess. There is no clear way to "a path of predictable progress" that we've lost, and the sooner they realize that and instead work on bigger, more personal/emotional issues, the better. TALK to the people!!!
• ThRump has to massively fail. That won't bring over the 30% but it will convince some of the Swingers so that the Ds can return to power and stop the slaughter of our country and liberal system. NOTHING can happen until he fails. He's got all the ammo.
Sounds about right. I'd add a 4th that's corrolary to 2: have ideas. If you're not going to be a policy wonk, at least have some high-level ideas. I hear this from young people all the time - they, or their friends, are leaning right because the left is out of ideas. We had liberalism, they say, and we got high divorce rates and Chapel Roan winning a Grammy, and now they'd like something else.
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