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Joshua Katz's avatar

Walt and I come from different starting points insofar as I see maybe 1 or 2 people on there I'd expect better from. The untangling of "fusionism" came far too late, but now remains the second best time for it.

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Daniel's avatar

I generally agree with the criticisms here, but I’d like to see more meaningful engagement on what we can do to unfuck the academy. The mass majority of commentary is polarized between “nothing to see here” and “crushing the wokes trumps free speech”.

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Libby Milliken's avatar

🤔… I wonder how the signers of the MS will react when they find themselves in that common predicament that arises when Dear Leader’s whims become incompatible with his enablers’ exulted ideological principles… I would argue that such an outcome is nearly as inevitable as death & taxes.

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Ralph Rosenberg's avatar

I live in a college town. . I am retired. Others want to remain anonymous because of fear of impact of loss of job, etc. I get that.

I am hoping one of your readers might have a connect with one of the national univ./college org.

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Ben - MD, VA, NE Florida.'s avatar

Christy Rufo is in the middle of it? Because, of course he always is.

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Dorian Liepmann's avatar

Excellent article about MI's statement. What I find really interesting is that students pick the school they want to attend and pick the classes they take. Don't go to a school that you think is too radical. I teach at Berkeley and we offer more than 2,000 classes per semester and here is a lot of information about the classes available to the students.

The Manhattan Institute also states that the American People provide ~150 billion dollars to the universities. This is true but the money is for research which is separate from undergraduate teaching. And just at Berkeley, the research has resulted in new immune-system based cancer treatments (recent Nobel Prize), an ultra small, efficient transistor used in all high performance computer chips, MEMS devices that let your cell phone know which way is up, etc.

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Joshua Katz's avatar

Or do. Challenge yourself and promote the change (ideological dialogue) you want to see in the world.

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Paul Brest's avatar

More than a bit ironic that the Statement is authored by the architect of Florida's anti-woke legislation, which a federal judge struck down as violating faculty members' and students' first amendment rights.

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Flyover West's avatar

What happens when the presidency is occupied by someone who isn’t authoritarian? That the statement’s signers can’t, or refuse to, recognize this tells us how fundamentally unserious this project is.

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Geoff G's avatar

I wouldn't like being told what to think even if the President was someone I voted for. I'm not looking for a president to provide that service for me. And my guess is that the people in my political tribe who do want a president who'll tell people what to think would disagree very strenuously on what the content of that thought should be. I'm kinda surprised that the Manhattan folks are willing to roll the dice and accept thought control from a Democratic president, but I guess they know what they're doing.

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DJ's avatar

Limited government for me, but not for thee.

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Joshua Katz's avatar

Very much so, but let's be honest. Did anyone ever really think these were bold free-speech/academic freedom champions?

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Shikha Dalmia's avatar

Yes. Limited government was always a ploy to restrain the left when it was in power. WHen the right has the levers of power, it wants to use them robustly and not even to advance a policy agenda but just to launch war on the left.

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Joshua Katz's avatar

Wait, you mean like Gary North explicitly said? Hmm.

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Ralph Rosenberg's avatar

As opposed to many who ignored Project 2025, thanks for sharing and exposing. Is there a way to post this as a column in every university and college paper? I do not agree with some of Walter's conclusions, but the explanation of the control to be exerted by Trump is now in front of us..

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Shikha Dalmia's avatar

Anyone can reprint it for free so long as they credit it to us. If you have a way of putting it in the hands of all univ papers that would be great. Is there a central clearing house for that kind of thing?

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Anders Ingemarson's avatar

Walter,

Good analysis that I mostly agree with. I would be thrilled to see what a Walter Olson manifesto would look like. Complete separation of state and higher education (financing and regulation)?

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