Not sure how this qualifies the author as not doing his homework. Kind of seems like you’re more interested in a snarky comment than adding anything interesting to the discourse here. Lol
Right-wing groups that scream about freedom of speech often are interested only in freedom of speech for people who support their views. If you disagree with them, they’re much less interested.
I can’t speak for others (obviously), but I am equally
opposed to censorship by the left. At the moment, however, I think that that is a much smaller risk than is censorship by the right. The right controls all three branches of government and Trump has never been very enamored of people who criticize him about anything.
not equally …You’re not …You didn’t give a shit when the Dems were in power. And leftists control every school and university in the country. Academics and teachers get sacked all over the western world when they don’t go along with woke bullshit. Your side used the court system to try and defeat the American people You don’t like it….tough shit, But if you want to re-create a shared middle ground, then it’s your side that has to move furthest and fastest.
More than 10,000 books were removed from the H.B. Beal Secondary School Library in London, Ontario, between January and March of 2025, and two years earlier, all books published before 2008 were removed from Peel District School Board libraries (also in Ontario). These book purges were initiated by school and library staff, not by citizens demanding censorship.
The call is coming from inside the house for some liberals.And unfortunately, I wished we could all clean the house.So we could actually be presentable and votable for the next midterms.
When it came to political correctness and other things.Our illiberalness came at this price, and now the right has just marched on through.
And I can't help but think that the people with the best of intentions have helped pave that road with the curtailing of speech.The compelling of speech, the banning of books, the tearing down of monument...
But thank you for being consistent in a time where that is rare.
Thank you for being a supporter of liberal values and even acknowledging that sometimes the so called liberal can be very Illiberal.
We need more people like you in the world.And we also need more conservatives that realize that trump isn't doing anything to conserve anything. Even his fiscal policy is it's terrible, but people still are thinking that he's a fiscal conservative. When he's doing anything but
Everyone who is involved in Greater Trumpistan is a hypocrite, end of. Is the left guilty of soft censorship? Absolutely, and it's about time we got serious about it. Is banning the ideas of the left through government restraint or threatened lawsuits better? No, it's arguably far worse because that's *hard* censorship, the kind explicitly banned by the First Amendment. They're both bad, and FIRE (the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression) have been doing yeoman's work standing up against both varieties. The partisanship and polarization in this country (and others...looking at you, Keir Starmer) is so bad that very few people have the consistency to stand on the principle of free expression. That's why I give Greg Lukianoff and FIRE such high marks, because both the Lefty profs and MAGA goons seem absolutely happy to suppress ideas they don't like. It takes courage, the strength of your convictions, and a good moral compass to fight against all prior restraint. (http://www.fire.org/)
Sorry, but if Judge Terry Doughty had heard Mark Zuckerberg’s subsequent admissions about interference from the Biden administration, he would have ruled against them. Not that it makes what the current admin is doing any less egregious, but don’t try to tell us what Taibbi and others called the Censorship Industrial Complex didn’t happen or wasn’t a big deal.
ACLU don’t make me laugh. Your hypocrisy is beyond measure. I don’t care for corporate or state censorship. But until you own the massive authoritarian monopoly, exercised by the left in schools and universities, and in many nation states, you’re just another partisan hack. The bottom line is that your side has created a zero sum politics. You abandoned the rule of law and liberal principles. Tens of thousands of you cheered when Charlie Kirk got killed. You egg on people who are assassinate Trump…. And then you cry when he doesn’t play nice. Welcome to the world you created. It’s pretty shitty. We can agree on that.V but you created it .
This sounds like a "you started argument" maybe in principle, you should be against what trump is doing.Because it's a question of principle, not a question of sides period.
And I think you over exaggerate the amount of people that cheered when that person got killed... you seem to ignore that people were thinking.He was going to raise from the dead three days later, because they're absolutely insane.
It was political violence.There was a terrible tragedy.However, let's not forget that the man was not exactly a saint.
Who's egging on Who, when did this author do that?
I don't care who started it. And if you don't like it, you don't like the censorship industrial complex as you are very right to hate it.. you shouldn't like it when another side does it but so brash, and so terribly that the constitution is being threatened.
Yet there is a censorship industrial complex, and they did have valid fears. However, I would love to see these people be consistent.
And yes, I don't like how you downplay how twitter is just an arm of the government at that point... at the same time.Thank you for calling out the hypocrisy.And the horrible shit that trump is doing, especially when he ran on a platform that was supposed to be the reduction of the censorship.
Only the ACLU? Someone didn’t do his homework https://www.thefire.org/news/fire-sues-bondi-noem-censoring-facebook-group-and-app-reporting-ice-activity
Not sure how this qualifies the author as not doing his homework. Kind of seems like you’re more interested in a snarky comment than adding anything interesting to the discourse here. Lol
Right-wing groups that scream about freedom of speech often are interested only in freedom of speech for people who support their views. If you disagree with them, they’re much less interested.
Pot kettle
I can’t speak for others (obviously), but I am equally
opposed to censorship by the left. At the moment, however, I think that that is a much smaller risk than is censorship by the right. The right controls all three branches of government and Trump has never been very enamored of people who criticize him about anything.
not equally …You’re not …You didn’t give a shit when the Dems were in power. And leftists control every school and university in the country. Academics and teachers get sacked all over the western world when they don’t go along with woke bullshit. Your side used the court system to try and defeat the American people You don’t like it….tough shit, But if you want to re-create a shared middle ground, then it’s your side that has to move furthest and fastest.
More than 10,000 books were removed from the H.B. Beal Secondary School Library in London, Ontario, between January and March of 2025, and two years earlier, all books published before 2008 were removed from Peel District School Board libraries (also in Ontario). These book purges were initiated by school and library staff, not by citizens demanding censorship.
The call is coming from inside the house for some liberals.And unfortunately, I wished we could all clean the house.So we could actually be presentable and votable for the next midterms.
When it came to political correctness and other things.Our illiberalness came at this price, and now the right has just marched on through.
And I can't help but think that the people with the best of intentions have helped pave that road with the curtailing of speech.The compelling of speech, the banning of books, the tearing down of monument...
But thank you for being consistent in a time where that is rare.
Thank you for being a supporter of liberal values and even acknowledging that sometimes the so called liberal can be very Illiberal.
We need more people like you in the world.And we also need more conservatives that realize that trump isn't doing anything to conserve anything. Even his fiscal policy is it's terrible, but people still are thinking that he's a fiscal conservative. When he's doing anything but
Try an actual comment rather than an idiotic phrase.
What does that even mean?
jim's had a bad day. needs a nap
Everyone who is involved in Greater Trumpistan is a hypocrite, end of. Is the left guilty of soft censorship? Absolutely, and it's about time we got serious about it. Is banning the ideas of the left through government restraint or threatened lawsuits better? No, it's arguably far worse because that's *hard* censorship, the kind explicitly banned by the First Amendment. They're both bad, and FIRE (the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression) have been doing yeoman's work standing up against both varieties. The partisanship and polarization in this country (and others...looking at you, Keir Starmer) is so bad that very few people have the consistency to stand on the principle of free expression. That's why I give Greg Lukianoff and FIRE such high marks, because both the Lefty profs and MAGA goons seem absolutely happy to suppress ideas they don't like. It takes courage, the strength of your convictions, and a good moral compass to fight against all prior restraint. (http://www.fire.org/)
Sorry, but if Judge Terry Doughty had heard Mark Zuckerberg’s subsequent admissions about interference from the Biden administration, he would have ruled against them. Not that it makes what the current admin is doing any less egregious, but don’t try to tell us what Taibbi and others called the Censorship Industrial Complex didn’t happen or wasn’t a big deal.
Wrong.
You just liked Covid misinformation and other right wing tropes.
You're obviously clueless on the legal issues.
You know what they say about ASS U ME ?
It's actually worse than that. You wanted the state to coerce private companies to platform speech that you favored.
Disgusting.
I did? You must be joking. On what basis do you put those words in my mouth ?
Reading your idiotic comment.
Okay, first off, that.Begs the question, is he doing that?
It's very much of a big deal.And so is this current administration's bull crap and he's trying to call for consistency
ACLU don’t make me laugh. Your hypocrisy is beyond measure. I don’t care for corporate or state censorship. But until you own the massive authoritarian monopoly, exercised by the left in schools and universities, and in many nation states, you’re just another partisan hack. The bottom line is that your side has created a zero sum politics. You abandoned the rule of law and liberal principles. Tens of thousands of you cheered when Charlie Kirk got killed. You egg on people who are assassinate Trump…. And then you cry when he doesn’t play nice. Welcome to the world you created. It’s pretty shitty. We can agree on that.V but you created it .
This sounds like a "you started argument" maybe in principle, you should be against what trump is doing.Because it's a question of principle, not a question of sides period.
And I think you over exaggerate the amount of people that cheered when that person got killed... you seem to ignore that people were thinking.He was going to raise from the dead three days later, because they're absolutely insane.
It was political violence.There was a terrible tragedy.However, let's not forget that the man was not exactly a saint.
Who's egging on Who, when did this author do that?
how about this lovely man below ? https://www.theunpopulist.net/p/what-are-heterodox-free-speech-warriors/comment/216902370
Exaggerating? And yet the very first comment....
https://substack.com/home/post/p-188512478
Where did charlie kirk come up in any of this?
I don't care who started it. And if you don't like it, you don't like the censorship industrial complex as you are very right to hate it.. you shouldn't like it when another side does it but so brash, and so terribly that the constitution is being threatened.
https://substack.com/home/post/p-188512478
If you wanna hi hard hit here
Lol 😆 what an asinine rant. Quit whining about that dumb Nazi. He's dead ger over it. 😢
Can you draw pictures as well?
Yet there is a censorship industrial complex, and they did have valid fears. However, I would love to see these people be consistent.
And yes, I don't like how you downplay how twitter is just an arm of the government at that point... at the same time.Thank you for calling out the hypocrisy.And the horrible shit that trump is doing, especially when he ran on a platform that was supposed to be the reduction of the censorship.