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Alex's avatar

People like this want your kids to be drug addicts. People like this want you dead.

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Peter Smith's avatar

We live in an interesting time when the West is so incompetent at foreign policy that NATO cannot even defeat the Taliban, let alone have any idea how to handle crumbling 3rd world dictatorships, like Russia, or Iran, yet lethal force is used against merely suspected drug distributors, something that shouldn't even be illegal, let alone require military force.

I think this is one issue that is bigger than Trump and captures the massive failure of expertise that we have had for generations in politics, and specifically in foreign policy.

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Mike Smolens's avatar

Trumps use of the military to overtake local police. Right out of the authoritarian handbook.

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Ken Kovar's avatar

The Department of War definitely does not mess around baby! Dumb and deadly is our motto 😳😝

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RD's avatar

Biden blew up the Nordstream pipeline, an act of international terrorism. Crickets.

Both Bushes unilaterally invaded Iraq illegally and created ISIS / ISIL as a byproduct. Crickets.

Clinton unilaterally attacked Serbia illegally. Crickets.

Obama deported more illegals than Trump. Crickets.

Clinton deported more illegals than Obama. Crickets.

Trump blew up a boat with drug dealers: The world is coming to an end.

Trump removes illegals. He's a dictator.

The world sees through it, folks. It's over.

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Peter Smith's avatar

What's an "illegal?"

Also, gotta love a MAGA listing of all the times when the dems were anti-immigrant (it being an OG left-wing political issue after all) and still not really getting it.

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Ken Kovar's avatar

Obama was awesome dude. He deported people because that was the law! And the the Iraq war was opposed by a lot of people even early on. Hardly a bunch of crickets chirping πŸ¦—

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RD's avatar
Sep 10Edited

Obama was awesome if you hid his dark moments behind a curtain.

Where is the accountability for the illegal war against Iraq? Why aren't the Bush's in jail?

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George Shay's avatar

You know you have a bad case of TDS RAGE when you find yourself defending:

-Venezuelan drug cartels that murder our youth

-Chicago gang bangers who do the same

-Flag burners

All in one Substack!

Seek help.

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Peter Smith's avatar

It's not TDS so much as support for rights-protecting government, the founding values of the US and Western civilization in general.

Rights-protecting government does not restrict drug use.

Legalizing drugs would eliminate drug cartels.

Chicago criminals have nothing to do with the military, whose job should be to crush the West's enemies, like the Taliban, and Russia, not police the peace, etc.

Burning flags is protected by free speech.

Etc.

Like most MAGA, you just support authoritarianism without wanting to admit it.

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George Shay's avatar

1. I'm not MAGA

2. You seem to make a habit of being wrong

3. Whenever they say it’s not TDS, it’s TDS

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Peter Smith's avatar

Well, it's not TDS on my end, as the rest of the post shows by providing basic reasoning.

MAGA cultists have no reasons for their positions beyond mindlessly supporting Trump. That's what actual derangement looks like.

I don't think the West has ever seen anything as bonkers as this in mainstream politics. MAGA is an unprecedented catastrophe of stupidity and incompetence.

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George Shay's avatar

Feel free to criticize MAGA but you’ve lost the thread.

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Peter Smith's avatar

I think being so confused that you don't even realize that you're MAGA, while thinking you're "winning" anything, is perfectly on point for someone like you.

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George Shay's avatar

I think you oughta go fuck yourself. How do you like that, fuckhead?

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Ken Kovar's avatar

But believing the administration’s lies about those events is way worse don’t you think. Please refute me and tell me how any of that nonsense is true. I’m serious I would love to cite some facts. Thanks

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George Shay's avatar

It’s hard for me to believe you're serious. Are you not aware that Maduro’s regime is a narco state that profits by importing a massive amount of illegal drugs into the US?

Are you not aware that Chicago is the murder capital of America for the 13th straight year?

Those irrefutable facts should suffice, but let me know if you want more details.

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Peter Smith's avatar

It's not so much "irrefutable facts" as completely irrelevant points from someone who doesn't really understand how anything works and thinks they are right anyway (AKA MAGA).

Any issues caused by illegal drugs are resolved by legalizing drugs. Same with "illegal immigration," and any other non-issues that MAGA cultists have fixated on because of their total political illiteracy.

Crime rates in Chicago can also be dealt with through tougher law enforcement, and more importantly, dismantling the welfare state that causes all these conditions.

You know, the kind of rights-protecting, limited government policies that used to be more associated with the GOP, and the right-wing, before they cooked their brains with MAGA and became the craziest leftists we've ever seen in mainstream politics.

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Cor's avatar

I’ll spell it out for you.

There’s a thing called international law. See - that’s a law that everyone agrees to. He violated that.

There’s also this thing called Congress. They have to ok his attack. He didn’t even tell them.

Another fun fact - the Navy Seals just killed a bunch of North Korean fishermen because they could, which again is in violation with international law and frankly gives North Korea an out should they bomb us.

Trump can’t just decide things. Thats not how it works. Whether or not it was a bunch of drug dealers or children it doesn’t matter because it’s blatant illegal and unamerican.

Plus the idea that Trump gives two shits about fentanyl or any other drug is laughable. His kid is a well known cocaine user. He’s just ruining Don junior’s ability to get high, and just like here at home - his stupid acts are raising the costs on everything.

The only way Trump can keep up his ICE raids is by pretending to give a shit about drugs coming into the country. The Emergency act he is using to justify his takeover by saying there’s some national crisis with fentanyl.

Fentanyl deaths are down. If he gave a shit, the time to address it was during his first time in office.

Just like it’s an utter lie that Chicago is full of violent crime, the same goes for fentanyl. Furthermore, Venezuela isn’t even where the fentanyl is coming from. Yet remember, this event is justified because he said so, and he couldn’t even attack the right source for drugs. I’m sure if it was a drug boat (and we don’t actually know - we got β€œtrust me, bro” on it) it had drugs on it, but again, the claim is that the issue is fentanyl.

You know who is the dealer of fentanyl? China.

Where’s the bombings for fentanyl now?

Oh right.

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Ruth's avatar

I think the North Korea thing was during 45. Hard to believe it actually didn’t leak before now, but that’s what I read.

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Cor's avatar

Whoops!

It was still under him though. It is absolutely wild that it’s just now been leaked. It’s just a good look at the incompetence under king Donnie.

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Ken Kovar's avatar

Chicago is not the murder capital by the only relevant statisitic: murders per capita. The raw numbers shock people on Fox and Newsmax but the per captita value gives you the crime rate.

https://wirepoints.org/2024-homicide-rankings-chicago-st-louis-lead-nation-yet-again-a-wirepoints-survey-of-americas-75-largest-cities/

Are you not aware that Maduro’s regime is a narco state that profits by importing a massive amount of illegal drugs into the US?

I asked for facts, George, all you gave me was some vague assertion of being a narco state that is importing massive amounts. Define narco state, last time I checked Venezuela was a petro state. And massive amounts and of what type.

And why did we just randomly blow up a civilian boat that was not even boarded like a normal drug interdiction. Sorry, this operation is pretty shady.

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Judi Lakin's avatar

Wow! I knew of all of these events, but seeing them listed like this with the dates is really powerful and seems so obviously impeachable! Please keep doing this and when the saner people get back in power, maybe something can be done.

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