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Cathy Young's avatar

I've been hesitant to respond here, but your demonization of white people and your ridiculous abuse of statistics make me wonder if you're a troll. The FBI stats you cite do not show white people committing a disproportionate share of crimes. Whites make up 75% of the population but account for 44% of arrests for murder, 67% of arrests for rape, and 62% for aggravated assault. If you're going to focus on white *men*, those are statistical shenanigans that conflate race & sex (the disproportion for black men will be far greater). As for whites getting away with crimes because of "white privilege," a look at the National Crime Survey (where crime victims report the race of the offender) shows that the demographics of arrests are very similar to those of offenders. No one except racists argues that the differences in crime rates are due to innate black criminality, but your denialism is just helping people like Hanania.

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Cathy, I appreciate your good faith criticism of Hanania, and I'm hoping you'll take the time to read my defense of him. I cannot say with absolute certainty that Hanania has changed, but I can tell you why it's in the best interests of the American right (or whatever you want to call the movement against wokeness) for us to support him regardless.

People who are psychologically vulnerable to white nationalist arguments, but not smart or educated enough to counter them on their own, need to be guided away from them. This can only be done by addressing their arguments and the underlying assumptions of said arguments. There are few people willing to do that, and even fewer people who know how to do that. No one else in that subgroup has Hanania's aptitude, and I know this because he played a major role in my own deradicalization.

To be clear, I've always been a "small-l liberal", so my extremist phase wasn't quite as extreme as Hanania's, but throughout my early-to-mid 20's, I could accurately be described as a white nationalist, because I fully believed in the Great Replacement and thought that the left’s domination of American culture was the result of changing racial demographics. I knew that the people in charge of woke institutions were white, but I reasoned that they gained their power through the support of non-whites. I could not think of any better explanation for what was happening, and even if someone provided me with one, I wouldn't have accepted it unless it came with a plan of action to stop wokeness.

Most writers on this beat say that wokeness won fairly in the marketplace of ideas, but also that it can also somehow be defeated in the marketplace of ideas. It should be obvious why many people don't believe that a strategy that's been failing for at least fifteen years will suddenly start working. And once you reject the idea that you can argue wokeness into submission, your only options are to go with Peter Brimelow, who says Making America White Again will solve the problem, or Curtis Yarvin, who says installing a dictator would solve the problem. I chose white nationalism because it was the more liberal of those two options.

But now we have a third option: Hanania. He has provided an explanation for America's leftward march that isn't related to the increasing number of brown people. His book, The Origins of Woke, argues that wokeness is the result of little-known government policy, and that once Republican politicians are aware of the policy, they can change it. This seems much more liberal than a racially discriminatory immigration system or a dictatorship, no?

As I understand, you don't want to promote Hanania or his book because you fear he might still be racist, and associating with racist people makes you feel icky. But what is the alternative? Do we push for someone without Hanania's ickiness to write the exact same book, so that people like you feel comfortable reading it? Do we invent an entirely new strategy to fight wokeness and hope that whoever writes the book on it doesn't get exposed as a racist?

One more thing: The recent comments that you attack Hanania for are what Scott Alexander would describe as s scissor statements. When Hanania says that reducing crime would require surveilling black people, it is possible that he is saying we should target people for their race, but it's also possible that he's saying we should target people because of their criminal history, which carries with it a disparate impact. Disparate impact may not be a legitimate concept to you, me, or Hanania, but it's literally written into the law and taught in every university! When people talk about “systemic racism” or “white supremacist institutions”, they're talking about disparate impact! He could just be acknowledging that this is how people think. It is the subject of his book, after all.

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