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Jun 23Edited

These propagandist pieces are so blindly partisan, so illogical and so politically blind to the errors of the far Left that they paint a picture that the boogeyman is only found outside of the Liberal movement, which is absolutely not true. The rise of every single authoritarian and fascist state is accomplished by the capturing of public media. Can we do an article on how Biden censored the free speech of Americans and violated the 1st Amendment, for which he is in court for? This is a serious violation that the Left committed while absolutely trying to sweep under the rug, meanwhile trying painting Trump as the one destroying democracy. There is no democracy without free speech and a free media. It's absurd. At this point, the Left are fully disconnected from the reality that most Americans are starting to believe Trump is the solution to the US's ills, most of which have been created over the last 4 years by the Left. The debt is at a record high, inflation is at a near record high, living standards have dropped, illegal immigration has skyrocketed, Biden isn't even a functioning human and Trump hasn't been in office in 4 years. The Left has lost touch with reality.

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RD sounds like he has some blind partisanship problems himself, so he would know, wouldn't be?

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It's a fools errand to try to talk about someone you know nothing about and it's poor sportsmanship to shoot down the messenger rather than debate the message. It shows you have nothing left in the chamber and you'd get more respect if you just flew a white flag.

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Negative partisanship is still partisanship, a point that seems to escape this.

Try again.

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Germany liked Hitler because he was the answer to their problems and you saw how that went. Stupid people make up a large portion of votes. Here is the thing. Dems will vote for the leading Dem. Republicans only like trump and will only vote for trump and they will violate norms to have a third term because only trump. They also threaten violence against non conformists like many who have retired: Cheney, etc. Stop equating leftist with Maga. Leftist are irritating but they haven’t attempted a coup.

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The far Left more or less supported the greatest riots in US history, the BLM riots. The Left are no more 'peaceful' than the left, as exhibited by their waged wars both within the country and without. You're completely making things up out of thin air with your accusations about Trump because among the far Left all ends justify their means. They don't and it's a despicable way to operate.

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how do you respond to this without an ad hominem comment?

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I doubt he really cares, he's just trolling for attention.

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What a stupid idea for a debate! Who the hell should CARE what label to apply to Trump?

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Excellent. Thank you.

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I prefer referring to trumpism as proto-fascism. So far, trumpism has a number of very close similarities to the way Mussolini described fascism, but is not totally congruent with that. Clearly, Trump is not a fascist himself. Mussolini and Hitler were true believers in an ideology. Trump only believes in himself and wants power any way he can get it.

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Strict adherence to whatever the Great Leader's ideology is *that day* is what is important, and both of Hitler & Mussolini moved that around without any respect to ideological consistency.

People get consumed by the ideological aspects of them when that was never core to what they did, all they needed was to have similar lists of enemies.

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If, as you said, terrorism is only performed by non-state actors, what do you call atrocities committed by state actors, such as military, police, etc. for purposes similar or identical to that of other terrorists?

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People who know better are looking for reasons not to use that nasty "f-word".

Hopefully that savviness won't cause too much collateral damage, but at this point "owning the libs" is becoming more important than self-preservation for some.

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The far Left have owned themselves. The right (which really are centrists classically) are simply pointing it out. They've broken the world and it's almost irreparable at this point.

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Ah, so you are a partisan. Looks like you are learning more about yourself.

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I'm actually a-political, although most that know me have called me an "old school" hippie. I just call it like I see it. Outside of what is true, moral and legal I don't have a preferred side.

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Negative partisanship is still partisanship, and you can look in a mirror anytime you want.

And I've given you more attention than you deserve, but don't worry, I don't expect a thank you.

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Excellent discussion of language and the tricks it can play. Another word is 'racism'; I prefer a restricted definition but that is a lost cause, as when one of my students objected to the confiscation of his drink in class even though I had a coffee cup on my desk, "That's racist!" Neo-fascist would describe what? How about neo-racist? Grossman parses all this so well. As an old Latin teacher I might object to using the word parse as analyze rather than show grammatical relationships but I don't object; as with gender instead of sex, I've been persuaded it's a lost cause. But as Brian Williams would say, if this isn't fascism, it'll do until the real fascism comes along.

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